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The Philosopher's Stone has a history LONG before both Fullmetal Alchemist and Harry Potter.

Only by a "few" centuries though... sigh.

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Used for doing Transmutions such as:
Primal Might (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=23571)
Arcanite: (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=12360)
Earthstorm Diamond (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=25867) Used for Alchemist's Stone, aswell as Skyfire Diamond (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=25868)

The recipe for this stone is unlimited at Alchemist Pestlezugg at Tanaris.
A new replacement for Alchemist's Stone is Alchemist's Stone.(https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=13503)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Tanaris, Gagdetzan

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Do I just need to make 1 of these, or do they have X number of uses?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Making multiple stones does not allow you to do multiple transmutes so you need only one. Since they are soulbound you can't sell stones you make. Cooldown is 48 hours on transmutes.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Wtf? The philosophers stone is not a reference to anything other than the original alchemic myth of something that could turn lead into gold among other things. Sure, Harry Potter is great. Sure, FMA is great. But wtf? They didn't come up with it, it's not a reference to either, they didn't steal it. If anything, Harry Potter, FMA, and Blizzard are just using the myth as a means for plot device.

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ok so it has a cooldown is that per trasmute?
ex. i transmute air to fire or whatever

may i then transmute undeath to earth?

i know my examples may not exsist but i want to know if each different transmute has its own cooldown or each time i transmute anything if i have to wait 24 hours for any other trasmute

thanks in advance

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...rather, the cooldown is on your character.

The various transmutes activate your character's Transmutation cooldown with varying durations (depending on the transmute) but the stone itself does not have a cooldown.

So, no you cannot get around the cooldown by using multiple stones, etc.

By the way, this is how item cooldowns work in general. They are tied to your character, not the item.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The Philosiphers' Stone is used for Transmuations. Can only use it once a day apparently. (24H cooldown.)I assume the Alchemists' Stone is the same deal with a significantly shorter cooldown.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I got one of these from a Mithril Deposit I was mining (in Arathi Highlands, I believe but it may have been Alterac Monutains). Only the second gem I have ever goten from a Mithril Deposit (usually just Mithril ore and maybe Solid Stone. The other gem was a Star Ruby the following day).

You might try giving some Mithril ore to a jewelcrafter and letting him use Prospecting on it (basically converts 5 ore into a random gem (sometimes two) and mithril dust, but maybe this reagent might result also?). Mithril is too valuable to me right now as a Blacksmith to roll the dice on some random gems (I send any copper, tin, or iron ore I collect to a friend. He prospects it and tells me what he got (yes I trust him that much. I know him in RL). We usually split the gems based on what each of us can use for crafting purposes).

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only allows one at a time

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Achieving the Philosopher's Stone is the Western Tradition's equivalent to the Eastern Tradition's "Nirvana".. aka Enlightenment.

Due to Christianity's desire to stop people from from learning the Hermetic Sciences (aka Metaphysics, aka Magick), very little is known about it by the general public, however, there are many people who actively study and practice.

In symbology (from alchemy to astrology), iron represents saturnian energies. Saturn is symbolic of fears, restraints, discipline, bondage, limitation, material greed (a need for more no matter how much already has), using money to bond others (such as what corporations do who don't treat their employees well), etc. Kabbalistically (mystical kabbala, not orthodox/tradition jewish kabbala), it represents Binah.. but that's a whole book in itself.

Gold of course represents the sun, the core essence or Higher Spirit. The equivalent in christian understanding is one's Holy Guardian Angel who knows all what's best and tries to guide one. Doing what is good for one's spirit naturally, working for both the good of oneself as well as others. Kabbalistically, this is Tiphareth. When actively seeking enlightenment, we are just below it (on the ascension to "heaven"), and when one is able to come into full harmony with what one's True Will is (not self-will), then they reach such a state of enlightenment where everything they wish to do, to accomplish, just happens without suffering (saturn). etc etc

Commentaire de Allakhazam

what are they used for?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

there seems to be a lot of confusion on the cooldown
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just transmuted arcanite
cooldown 24hours

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Gold is the Philosopher's Stone, at least gold transmuted from lead or some other metal. It was the highest aspiration of alchemists to transmute lead into gold, and some spent their entire lives searching for a way to do so.

Over the centuries the legend of the "Philosopher's Stone" evolved into a magical stone that not only could turn lead into gold, but could heal the sick, enlighten your soul, and give eternal life.

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What about, say, transmuting water to air? 24 hour cooldown? 48 hour cooldown? None?(I can dream, can't I?)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

For those of you who are bummed on the cooldown, try filling your character slots and getting a stone for each char, just an easy way to get around the whole timer thing, atleast to some extent.

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cry about it, mooncloth is a 4 day cooldown not to mention the felcloth needed to make it generaly drops in one location, in Felwood, (not the only place felcoth drops), but the best place to farm it, and everybody and their grandma go there to farm it. kinda sucky trying to get 2 felcloth when you have 8 people racing in to get the first swing

Edited, Mon May 22 18:41:12 2006

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I used so much money for this... it sucks.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

can i make multiple philosophers stones and use both of them separately, or will the 24/48 hour cooldown apply to both of them once i transmute the first bar of mithril/iron

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The cooldown is the same regardless how many Philosophers' Stones you have.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Just wondering if you can only transmute 1 bar at a time, or if you can transmute 1 stack of bars. Can't seem to find this information anywhere, but I have a feeling I know the answer. Just want a confirmation from someone who's tried.

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TRANSMUTATIONS!
WAtch FullmetalAlchemist and may the force be with you...(lol!)
Oops...<may the force be with you> is not from here...
srry

Edited, Tue Mar 14 21:55:09 2006

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this thing sux.. how am i suppose to make any money by doing 1 transmuation a day or 2 days even... Can anyone tell me a good side to this?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

stone requires iron bar, purple lotus, fierbloom, and black vitrial. cant finf anything on allakhazam about the black vitrial or where to find it. a little help would be appreciated

Commentaire de Allakhazam

damn double post

Edited, Mon May 22 17:30:25 2006

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Where does one acquire one of these lovelies?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

If it's a 48 hour cooldown, does that apply only to arcanite? More specifically, can you transmute Iron > Gold 24 hours after using it to transmute arcanite? I'm betting the answer is no, but wouldn't it be funny if they screwed that up?

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Where does one acquire one of these lovelies?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

the Philosopher's Stone.... harry potter and the Philosopher's Stone... heh heh heh

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The goal of the Great Work of alchemy, called also the Art, is the "Philosopher's Stone". The Stone was viewed as a magical touchstone that could immediately perfect any substance or situation. The Philosopher's Stone has been associated with the Salt of the World, the Astral Body, the Elixir, and even Jesus Christ. The Elixir of the alchemists has essentially the same ability to perfect any substance. When applied to the human body, the Elixir cures diseases and restores youth.

The alchemists' dream is to attain knowledge of the mysterious Philosopher's Stone, or "that Elixir by which such wonders are performed".
The Stone is "a blessing beyond all blessings upon earth... given to but very few, and to those few rather by revelation of the good angels of God than the proper industry of man".

(Excerpt from http://www.world-mysteries.com/awr_alchemy.htm)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Each stone is on a global Cool Down. You can have more then 1 stone for more then 1 transmute a day (or two). Or so what Worldofwar.net says. Also, no, it is not consumed. any other idiot questions?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I got it for 80s from vender.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Heh.

Sorry, I had to make the obvious reference there. But, to have some validity to my post and not make it seem like "OmG ThIs ITeM IS TeH UBAr!1!1!" fluff...

How does a Philosopher's Stone relate in the real-life legends of alchemy? Every time I see alchemy, I almost always see a reference to a philosopher's stone...and since a lot of content in video games is modeled after legends and myths in real life, I was wondering what the stone was supposed to have done in the alchemy myths.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

the cooldown is global for all alchemist recipes that require it, and even worse, its 48hour for all of them if you do arcanite

Commentaire de Allakhazam

For those of you interested in the history of the Philosopher's Stone, it was a magical substance or stone that, when added to a chemical reaction, sped it up/enhanced it without being used up itself. Sound familiar? Grade 10 chemistry anyone? It was a Catalyst, the first formally discovered. They couldn't explain how it enhanced the transmutation yet wasn't consumed itself, so they assigned magical properties to it.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This thing isn't consumed in the process of transmuting is it?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I am not to the level yet but where can I find the recipe to make one?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Iron to Gold resulted in a 24 hour cooldown.

Mithril to Truesilver resulted in 48 hour cooldown.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

WTF is up with the cool stories about the philosophers stones? THey sound cool, but...

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Roses are red
Pansies are gay
If it wasn't for women
We'd all be that way

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While there's great discussion on what the Philosopher's Stone is and some really great lore, a lot of people want to know where to get the recipe.

You get it in Gaget

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