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Commentaire de 8450

This is easy to get now and would be really good for a paladin. With most one hands a paladin would be best off never using Seal of Command however this does so much damage you could actually do really good damage and it would be most effective with soc. I would say if your other equipment is good with this weapon a full retribution paladin could do about 1000 damage non crit soc hits and max at about 1800 damage with crits.

Commentaire de 9590

This sword is now easily obtained in a couple day's time even for a casual player. It is good for rogues, warriors, and paladins who like to pvp. It is beneficial in pve as well.

Commentaire de 8888_

After the recent honor "nerf" it takes a bit longer to achieve Grand Marshal Weapons. However, it still is fun to do :)

Commentaire de 12876

Easiest EPIC sword for me since our guild does not do 40-man stuff. This thing should still last quite some time even though phat l00t is droppin in Outlands.

Was well worth the time/effort it took to obtain.

Commentaire de 77420

Anyone know of a good tanking sword for a prot warrior? lvl 60?

Commentaire de 81647

This sword is now 15,500 honor points and 20 AB Marks of Honor

Commentaire de Yggdrassill

On a side note, enchant graphics are ridiculously exaggerated for these swords. For example, if you get icy enchant, you won't even be able to see the sword anymore.

Commentaire de 149489

If you are leveling a character currently and have your eyes set on these weapons, keep in mind that you should get the marks before you ding 60. The moment you hit 60 you get placed into the 60-69 Arathi Basin groups, which can be rather unpleasant.

Commentaire de 230458

A great sword that has the potential to last you all the way to 70; as greens doesn't match it's DPS till 67, and mid to late 60 blues aren't that much better either. I already have this banked for my 59 Warrior, for when I eventually leave the 59 PvP bracket and start leveling again. Gonna slap on a +20 Str on this sucker, and plan to level Prot; Devastate spams will be sweet with this sword.

Commentaire de Dragonfist

Please dear baby Geebus...
Someone explain to Blizzard that
"Bigger doesnt allways mean better" X_X_X_X

Please stop making weapons bigger...
this things already 500 pounds.

Commentaire de Sihmm

This sword is dual-wielded by the human antagonist in Percula's video The Craft of War: Blind. The blood elf he encounters is wielding a pair of Chromatically Tempered Swords.

It's also being held by the fierce-looking female gnome warrior on the bottom right of WoW's Eastern Kingdoms' loading screen!

Edit: I'm not sure why some people are rating this down and others are rating it up at apparently equal rates. The information is accurate and refers to an animation based on World of Warcraft models, world and lore that was and remains very popular and widely-known. The post is in no way attempting to "advertise" the animation, merely provide interesting information relating to these "legacy" items being used in a very iconic way years after they stopped being regular sights on our WoW servers.

If you wish to rate this comment down, please first check Wowhead's rating guidelines and/or reply explaining why you think this comment is inappropriate. Thanks.

Commentaire de 311758

can u duel-wield Grand Marshal's Longsword? or do u have to get the swiftblade?

Commentaire de 338307

A good main hand sword for combat grinding rogue.. easy to obtain and still possible as at 1st March 2009. (patch 3.10)

Honor was 12,250.. not too hard at all. Yes, dont go into Arathi at 60, do it before u hit 60... so u can do WSG, Arathi and Alterac at the same time.

Alterac is the best for honor, so long as your side knows how to win! (Gotta hold the towers and bunkers when u take them or else no honor for anyone!)

Also, the crap MH swords in Outland are disturbing. As previous posters have said: this is good right up to late 60s... looks like the next easy sword is https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=29124#comments Vindicators Brand (Aldor Exalted) ( At least I hope it's easy enough to grind Aldor Exalted.)

PvP Gladiator Slicers are no longer available at 70 through honor as far as I can tell.

Ginalilley, Rogue, <AllTheHordesCorpses>, Saurfang, Vengeance

Commentaire de decrepitbeef

This is the sword Highlord Bolvar Fordragon wields. Very shiny.

Commentaire de 343219

With the changes to the honor gear in patch 3.3.3 You will no longer need any marks, making this type of weapon very very attractive if you want to level an alt trough outland.

It takes about 210 stone keeper shards to get the +- 14k honor you need, just send the BOA honor marks to the prefered alt.

The 59,5 dps is better then the Heirloom swords, only at level 66 can the heirlooms transcend these beautys, however if you put a wotlk enchant on the Grand marshals, they can outlast the heirlooms till 68 when the heirs get their wotlk dps-jump.

Commentaire de 170445

as a Frost DK starting out, this is by far the best weapon to snag for your main hand, its slow, with ice talons, it hits fast, however, like a train.
Another thing is, you can put a rune on it, unlike the heirloom weps.
I recommend getting this for your main hand, then the heirloom 1h mace for your offhand, make sure to put crusader on it.
basically, you'll 3 shot mobs.

Commentaire de 640053

this blade is worth 13000 honor flat during the patch near my name

Commentaire de wtfoomnofair

Sold in Stormwind by Lieutenant Jackspring <Legacy Weapon Quartermaster> for 13,000 Honor.

Commentaire de 590092

What armor that a dk can get would go well with this if you were on an rp server? I'm thinking of a set that looks like the stomwind guard set but im not sure

Commentaire de freestyler1998

on my NE hunter lvl 60 twink with double mongoose is hell of fun

Commentaire de WoolferRU

Currently you cann't transmogrif none of old PvP weapon, including this.

Commentaire de Nimbal

At the moment, it does not seem possible to transmogrify into this sword. You only get the error message "This item's appearance cannot be used".

Edit: Blue Post about this. Apparently, you can only use PvP items for transmogrification if you actually earned them in the appropriate season. Which is slightly inconsistent with PvE items, where people can solo old raid instances for gear.

Commentaire de Thottbot

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8112/dualwield1fg.jpg
Or: http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8112/dualwield1fg.jpg

Grand Marshal Sandradee, Night elf Hunter

Commentaire de Thottbot

How about it's an "any class that wants it and has grand marshal rank" sword.

It's their rank, their money and their toon. It hurts no one if a hunter... or even a warlock wants these swords if they have the rank.

If the same sword was a drop, there would be room for debate. Since it's not, who *cares*... 95% of you will never earn the rank to buy this. and 50% of you will likely never even *see* the sword on another person.

Commentaire de Thottbot

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=44357/cuirasse-de-siège

This is better imo, better stats and faster. But it's your style of play really. Due to the "nerfing" of all slow weapons, I rekon the above link weapon is way better.

Commentaire de Thottbot

It says right at the top of the page. Read over the page before you ask questions...

Commentaire de Thottbot

i have +15 agility on this and the grand marshall hand axe. the damage i do is completely INSANE. i repeat INSANE. but i agree wiht most of u people. its very hard to get to grand marshall but once u do it is so SWEET! the armor is also very awesome i also had to PvP raid Ogrimmar, undercity, and MC almost 3 times a week (not all of them 3 times a week)

Commentaire de Thottbot

My goal is grand marshal, it'll be tough but I want the armor, the sword, the dirk, both fist weapons and the gun. They are for any class.

I'm a combat rogue and would love that in my main hand, or the dagger or the fist weapons. They will be my play things and I plan on respeccing several times anyway. Its how you want to play the game.

Also sword specialization is not worthless compared to getting the 5% crit bonus talent. The blade I have now has the stat to add an extra attack, I have two swords in my hands, so at times I'll see a crit with 2 extra numbers pop up on the screen. Add in the other additional crit % from talents, agi, enchants, etc - it is pretty nice.

Commentaire de Thottbot

dps is calculated as average damage/attack speed. average damage is maximum + minimum / 2. so with that calculation the ripper is ((114 + 213) / 2) / 2.8, this comes out to 58.3928 or 58.4. and then the longsword is ((138 + 207) /2) / 2.9, this calculates to 59.482 or 59.5. so basically because the long sword has a higher minimum damage it brings its average damage high enough to over come the .1 second in attack speed difference. in short it will hit harder more often than the ripper.

Commentaire de Thottbot

if you ever manage to get weapons from pvp lawl you have a self improving weapon as weapons from raid improve pvp weapons improve so.... this is all you need ^^

Commentaire de Thottbot

Alright, based on the above comment I'm sorry, but I have to point something out. Any rogue who's dumb enough to use a 2.90 speed weapon in their OFF HAND should reroll warrior or something else. Why? Off-hand uses DPS, not damage. Faster speeds also mean more poison uses, when your poison has say 30% chance(crippling in mind), in the span of 10 seconds, how many chances do ya have to apply said poison with a 2.90 weapon, vs a 1.80 weapon? Hmmm? Right, the faster weapon gets more chances, also slower weapons in the off-hand mean when you miss(and you will), it takes that much longer before your next off-hand swing to make up for it(if ya don't miss again). Faster weapons may miss more per minute, but they will over-all do more damage since their misses won't hold them back.
Slow main-handed weapon speed is good for rogues, especially me(being Hemorrhage), so this sword is ideal for Main-Hand, Swiftblade is good for off-hand. And any rogue who thinks poisons are useless in pvp probobly hasn't been past Rank 2 or 3 at most. Poisons are important for rogues, either slowing movement, or depleting the effects of their target's heals, or even slowing casting time or doing damage. Plus, deadly poisons are idea agenst fellow rogues, it'll prevent their vanish from lasting more than 3 seconds. it's important to have a 2.5+ weapon for MH, and 2.0- weapon for off-hand if you're playing a rogue.

IN MY HUMBLE OPPINION.
=)

Commentaire de Thottbot

First: If u're going to PvP i would recomend swords. 1h or 2h

The 2h will get u 2 strikes and the 1h's will give u more attacks

I would recomend to get the faster 1handers for fury build, because the more times u hit the more rage u build up+if u're a furywarrior u will use HeroikStrike alot and HS give +dmg to the next attack. and i know from my expirience that spamming HS does ALOT of dmg

and btw 2h sword is great too for PvP, but when the day comes for TBC(january 16). u will thank me for picking the
faster weapons, 2h's sucks for killing mobs

last but ot least! rember to put 2 points in improved berserking and enchanting your weps with crusader (whatevah wep)

Commentaire de Thottbot

I think that i should reroll alli just to get this O.o it looks so tight
better than horde
and how come on all the high warlord and grand marshall stuff, people say OH THIS PERSON DOES NOT DESERVE It, it doesn't matter if they deserve it or not, if they got the honor and the marks they can get it, its not like they are stealing
i mean.. if a warrior really really wanted to and had the honor and marks he could prolly get Grand Marshall/High Warlord Staff!

Commentaire de Thottbot

Yup indeed, now that all the HW/GM weapons can be gotten by almost anyone who steps foot in the pvp battlegrounds.

Besides, with BC coming out real soon everyone needs new gear to help out in the new areas. =)

Commentaire de Thottbot

This sword rocks for hemo rogues and tbh every mellee class who wants to spam slow hard hits with MH.

Rogues : remember that SS as well as many other instant mellee attacks where nerfed a long time ago. It works a little like this : SS f.i. gets an attack power bonus as if every sword you would be using is a 2.6 speed weapon. But if you use hemo or ghostly strike the AP bonus is still based on the attack speed from the weapon which is 0.3 more with this sword.

Although SS will always be more powerfull, you want the hemo with only 35 energy to stunlock with your sword, build up combo's fast for powerfull burst or dots, just like a dagger rogue would do, subblety with some points in assasination (11/0/41 f.i.) is the answer for this.

Now don't think that the output from SS works like it thinks that you use a 2.6 speed weapon when you are in fact using a fast rapier f.i. It is just a detail in a long formula whereby a bonus is added to the instant attack which is more or less based on your total AP + the speed of the weapon (2.6 for most attacks like SS and in this case 2.9 for hemo and GS) so its a relative but NOT to be underestimated bonus.

Now the facts : for the formula, maybe some whizz can do the calc, i'm historian so :S You will easily find it on wowwiki. To compare this sword the answer is more simple. Before You hit 70 there is none better, even at 70 not many blues can match because with 1500 AP atleast, the 0.3 difference for hemo is huge. Why ? Lol, there are almost no slower weapons as 2.60 because BLZ nerfed the speed of lots of weaps, they are all the same after 57 if dropped in outland ! With just a few exeptions which are sometimes ok greens (adamantite 1.9 great for ambush!) or very, very hard to get.

As 60 twink ? well unless you will be doing Naxx in a few months for atleast a few dozen times, you cant have TBC for the xp and (lol) nobody goes there anymore anyhow.

So, welcome to the best pre 70 slow 1H sword in the game. And so, so easy to get, 1 AV WE is enough. Or stick around at 60 for a while and improve your play, since all the good guyz in AV lvld up in there full epic 'marshall gear' with enough honour to get the replacement at 70. (Like me ;-)

Wildhammer EU

Commentaire de Thottbot

i havent played in like 4 months and im looking to make a rogue... should i save for these since i want to use swords and now that u can get them with honor there much ezier to get..

i here people using them to lvl 70 i figure 2 of these wont b that hard to get and it will make lvling in OL much ezier.. can anyone link an ez item to get other than these that are around the same dps and are able to obtain at lvl 60 or 61? if u can please let me kno cuz these look like they would do very well..

Commentaire de Thottbot

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=44357/cuirasse-de-siège -this should help

Commentaire de Allakhazam

what about 2 of these in a fury speccd warrior

Commentaire de Allakhazam

screenshot: (too lazy for link, just paste) http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=8/23422470320.png&s=x2

Commentaire de Allakhazam

My pally just go this and YEAH very happy with it cric for 600+ with crusader goin off 750+ crics then with SoC just playin FAT DPS

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i dont care what you all think it looks Pimp and rocks in pvp.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

10 more levels then I will be a god in battle grounds duel weilding this. not that im not already. quick question....can u really ambush then switch to duel weilding? i heard they changed it so you couldnt change weps in battle in a patch. would be appreciated if someone answered

Commentaire de Allakhazam

It would be nice as he** to have 2 of this fine looking swords =)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I would love two of these on my hunter with +15 agi enchants.. bg's here i come!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Yeah i think u can since u can switch weapons and idk how 1.9 and when is it even coming out...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Oh my god ... can anyone say THUNDERCATS!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This is defenetly a GOOD main-hand weapon for a Rogue it is been officially calculated (DAMN lost his link) that HIGH Sinester Strike overpowers high Ambush/Backstab. Calculated with the Ammount of energie you will lose, poisens, the talents (I think Sword is combat based and dagger is Assasin based) and the best combo with those talents. You cannot Solo 4 mobs with a dagger in main. You can EASELY with sword in Main. Im a stunlock rogue. And i will PwN your cookie off with this in Main hand and a what faster sword in Off (Sword specialization could make 300% DmGboost) I could kill your PALADINS without him be Able to Heal or attack at first place. So dont blablabla about daggers cause attacks from behind are for wussies anyway :P.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This is the only of two PvP rewards that look cooler than the Horde version. :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This weapon sucks for tanking only use it if u are fury or arms specced (this is to warriors)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

well I got this and the swiftblade, While that slow/fast combo is good for pve, it's kinda crappy for pvp. I still do better against casters than i did when i was arms, but i just dont produce the numbers 1 on 1. I get toasted in duels now and i miss my 1500-2000 crit MS ! I crit on a regular basis in the low 1000 range with crits for about 800 with whirlwind. I got crusader on both weapons and it procs all the time :)! im gonna go for another longsword just to see the difference !

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Yes you can switch weapons in combat... but why would you want to do that? I know so you can put a dagger on but honestly... PvP combat is so quick it isn't worth the fuss.

All those on Executus, look out incomming!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Anyone has a screenshot of this sword ?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

after landing an ambush and swithing to dual wield of these:D
it would take down a warrior after 5 sec

Commentaire de Allakhazam

after landing an ambush and swithing to dual wield of these:D
it would take down a warrior after 5 sec

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Why not put GM longsword main with GM swiftblade off?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

To answer your question yes 2 of them would be good for a fury speccd warrior.
Does anyone know the average crit for a fury speccd warrior with these is?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

To the person who states
If u ever hear the voice of a night elf, have no worries, beacuse you are already dead.

Im sorry to say that you are mistaken.
I kill you guys all day long.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

To the rogues that think they will get this as soon as they hit 60...no, you won't...

Be prepared to join a pvp guild or get into an organized CP grinding group as well as dedicate a good 10-12 hours a day for 2 or more months in order to get this weapon.

Most rogues who want leet weapons will stick to raiding and go with a Chromatically Tempered Sword & Maladath combo.

Chromatically Tempered Sword:
Epée trempée chromatiquement Runed Blade of the Black Flight
Maladath, lame runique du Vol noir

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I bought 2 of it yesterday and im dual wielding it, im so god damn happy.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I'd like to see you kill Chipman.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

why would you tank if you had these types of weps? Come on you don't grind to GM or HWL to tank.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

A war Dual Weilding this with crusader enchant on both weapons SEXY i really Really want this :) lol so bad i am about to X-PLODE

Commentaire de Allakhazam

to the rogue that wants to dual wield these and the 1 that IS duel wielding these... /slap
Miséricorde de connétable what the real rogues get if they are rank 14... thats where the REAL dmg is, sword rogue is a stupid spec, the only difference between sword and dagger rogues is the speed at which they do the dmg, with that dagger u crit BS and ambush for 1700+ thats 2 shotting a mage and bringing a warrior down very fast.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The PvP epics became the new tier 0, kinda sucks having everyone swinging GM weapons and wearing r12/13 gear now days. Its Blizzard trying to put everyone on a level playing field for TBC.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

One of these days my already ubar pwnage rogue is gunna dual weild this and be a HOLY#$%^ITSAGODPWNGE rogue.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Sexy, its actually quite good up until level ~65.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i dont care what you all think it looks Pimp and rocks in pvp.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Check out illusion on google vids. He doesnt have fast weapons but very strong very very very strong. teh servo arms

Commentaire de Allakhazam

the illusion videos are actually the lamest thing ive ever seen ... 8%% of the frapsed fights he has the berserking buff on from AB/WSG

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