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Commentaire de wellwisherelf

Dropped from Romeo and Juliet opera house event..
Which was very challenging to say the least

Commentaire de thebrassthief

What is the proc rate on the impale?

Can it (the impale) crit?

Commentaire de Rauros

Proc rate seems kinda low, I could agree with the ~5% comment, but haven't actually kept numbers. It does crit, and it can also double proc. I actually had 2 crit impales in a row (white, impale, impale).

Commentaire de Harbinger

Just to clarify some confussion.

Proc is NOT affected by opponents armor.

Commentaire de 19517

I would just like to point out that in the size department, this thing is a zin'rokh 2.0. It literally takes up my undead warrior's entire body on his back.

Commentaire de 22164

It seems to proc less often than sword spec. I'll download ProcWatch and try to run a few tests to pinpoint the proc rate.

As for the proc itself, it has been mentioned that it ignores armor and benefits from %-damage effects, which means that it's effected by at least these common buffs:

+5% damage from (Outlands) zone buffs
+4% damage from Blood Frenzy
+20% damage from Death Wish
+25% damage from Enrage
+30% damage from Berserking

This can theoretically push the proc damage up a lot. I've seen a few crits in the 1500-1600 range - http://surl.se/agjj - it's just a shame that the proc rate is so low.

Commentaire de 22164

I forgot to add, the proc can be dodged, parried and probably missed. Seen the first two but not the latter.

Also, the proc crits roughly as often as your own crit rate, so I'm seeing a 20-30% crit chance.

Commentaire de 2919

Dropped for me (Paladin) last night. Can confirm that the proc can be missed, also affected by Vengeance and Avenging Wrath, so it stacks nicely and can crit hard when you're lucky. Also can proc off the extra attack Seal of Command gives. The proc sounds like the squish that happens when a warrior crits someone and causes them to bleed.

Commentaire de 44257

As of today with the current PTR-Patch for 2.1 this sword has been upgraded to:

319 - 479 Damage
(114 damage per second)
+52 Strength

Commentaire de devioususer

2.1 seems to have increased the proc rate of impale a serious amount. I'd say up to 10% now. It procs more often than sword spec for me.

Commentaire de Deadlykris

Just got this bad boy on my Paladin last night, after seeing it go to Warriors on two other occasions. Can't wait to really put it through its paces.

Looks to be of manageable size on a Female Blood Elf, unlike most weapons which are undersized.

Commentaire de absorb

i think this weapon is under rated . Sure, it is lower max dmg for MS, and less overall stats but being sword spec and its ability to proc impale is priceless in PvP
your every hit potentially gains extra sword attack and a chance to proc impale which also has a chance to crit
not to mention impale can proc of stuff like hamstring and whirlwind
imagine with just 1 white melee, u gain all those proc in an instant e.g. white crits, procs impale, sword extra swing crit, impale procs again
yeah iv had this happen

Commentaire de 66475

did some testing with this and after 1003 attacks i got 29 procs suggesting a proc rate of 2.89%.

at this rate, if you turn the proc to dps it adds roughly 5 dps to the weapon making it 119 dps

Commentaire de Roseblood

I love this weapon. The proc rate for me is between 5-10%.

My record crit with the proc is 1879. I had, 3 stacks of Vengeance, Avenging Wrath, and the 5% from the AV standard.

I just had it proc of itself. I've had it proc off Seal of Command and my swing, as well as Crusader Strike. It can also proc things like Fiery and Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom

~Karanis (70 pally, Kalecgos)

Commentaire de 69115

I am waiting for this to drop for my paladin in Karazahn, it looks like a very nice weapon, but there are two issues with it that you should consider.

One, it has no stamina, meaning, your other gear better be packing some stamina if you intend to be using this weapon for pvp. (As I'm sure most people are)

If you're a ret paladin intending to use it for PVE DPS, then you may want to pass this for a different weapon, such as the Legacy, since the proc will cause a lot of random threat, and that is already a large issue with ret paladins, large threat, and random damage spikes. But it does have a LOT of strength, and Divine strength will beef it up more.

Happy hunting. :O Opera event is tons of fun.

Commentaire de 73706

Great sword, especially with a savagery enchant, it becomes an AP monster.

Basically, with the impale proc and sword spec, you have 2 chances to get an extra hit. If you are lucky enough to have a shammy friend to run with, you get a 3rd chance with windfury.

The proc consistently crits, so the crit chance is almost certainly based off of melee crit. Highest proc crit I've had was for about 1250. It will proc off of any attack too, so sweeping strikes whirlwinds can be devastating in a BG. Having it proc off a hamstring is even better.

The sword itself is very distinctive, I ride around with it on even when I'm prot spec just to show it off. A lot of people bash this sword for silly reasons, but really it is incredibly powerful and has more potential for burst DPS than Gorehowl and even the tier 2 BS weapons.

Commentaire de PizzaMan

So I downloaded a mod to track procs. Here is what I got:

8774 attacks landed
181 impale procs

2.06% proc rate

2% seems about right as the proc is quite rare and as stated by others, the proc behaves like a sword spec proc in that it can be dodged, parried, or just plain miss.

As mentioned above (though not specifically) it also affected by damage buffs, so a typical arms/fury build with 4 filler points (+4%) in 2H weapon spec will have the proc hit for 624 with no other buffs/debuffs present.

Commentaire de milkinc

I love this weapon, i think ill have this over gorehowl, now you ask why?
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9088/imbalolbu7.png
thats why, no damage increasing buffs what so ever, 2,1k crit :)

Commentaire de 67969

More potential than the tier 2 bs weapons for burst damage? Southrncomfortjm you are so wrong it's not even funny, how are you going to burst a crit higher than a weapon like Deep thunder who has almost 100 more damage range than the sword does.. for a dps in a raid to base his burst damage solely on the 2% chance of getting an extra impale attack would be stupid as hell.

Commentaire de milkinc

Its seems to proc from crits more often than normal hits, yesterday i popped recklessness and i got 2 impales in a row, both same damage, wich i found really odd and it wasnt somekind of a bug in my UI cause i saw the damage in the mob.

Commentaire de 80471

ok just wanting to clear it up but how does this impale thing work is it like a skill that adds damage to your normal attacks like ms and such or what?

Commentaire de g0dslay3r

Is this a good Retribution Paladin weapon?

Commentaire de 73742

This sword is completely emo, it's name is Despair and has a black and purple heart in the middle. The chance on hit might as well read "Chance on Hit: Attempts to cut your opponent's wrists for 600 damage."

Commentaire de 52669

I had this proc for me 2 times in 5v5 and murderd the pally.
I got a crit with my overpowerd (1.4k) and then got another crit with MS (1.5k) then this proc (1.3k) then SS proc (1.2k) this impale proced again (1.7k).I also had windfury on me so that made it easier for this.

Commentaire de 90111

I'd agree to 10% impale proc... I've impaled twiced too, white, extra swing (sword spec) impale impale

Commentaire de 37463

Please forgive me for making this kind of post but...

I was grinding ethereals in Netherstorm and had a reckoning proc while using Avenging Wrath:
2 white hits around 630
2 impale crits 1560 each
and an 800ish Seal of Command Proc

Total was just over 5K damage in one swing :) I had to change change my pants.

Commentaire de 125767

I have this weap on my retri pally. When it crits you really can't help but saying "holy sh..." When used with Avenging Wrath+Seal of Command it rocks your world and helps your enemies to remember your name.

Commentaire de Mainfold

As a Retribution Paladin i found that this, in PvE, had more damage done overall on bosses then the gladiator sword, but it is not a good choice for PvP.

so for those wondering, this is slightly better then the gladiator sword in PvE, assuming that both have Savagery.

and on another note it seemed like every time crusader proc'ed (when i had it enchanted with it), the impale proc came too.

Commentaire de Gimroth

I was wondering:

Impale
5 yd range
Instant
Attempts to impale the target, causing 600 damage.

What's with the attempt? Does it mean it has a chance to have a chance to proc, or does it mean it tries to impale the target by getting through dodge and parry odds?

Strictly reading it I'd assume the first. Could someone confirm or contradict this?

Commentaire de sasexw

Start farming ribbits and be sure you will have one of these within the summer of 2080

Edit:But with the new patch there are chances for only 50 years!Good luck and happy farming!

Commentaire de 133778

Its so...beautiful.... /tear

Commentaire de 115956

Coolest looking sword evarrrr!!

Commentaire de 102859

Used Seal of Crusader to top my 2h sword skill with this. Impaled for 557 damage, this being another proof that the proc works just like any melee attack.

Commentaire de 164292

This sword is-

Massive (Assuming human males are around 6' tall, that make the blade at least that large)

Good looking (Purple, yes, but in an evil sort of way. And it has no static "glow", so it takes enchant graphics.)

Easy to get (Kara, not an issue for most guilds that need a weapon for a PvE Arms Warrior)

The best PvE 2H weapon there is (until Zul'Jin and his Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse, https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=33478)

It should last you all the way through Kara, Gruul, Mag, and all of ZA until Jin'rohk drops.

two thumbs up, good luck and happy hunting.

Commentaire de hk278

I'd say the proc adds somewhere 4-6 dps (on boss fight for example).

Commentaire de 137851

Just wondering, but would the proc on this trigger Blood Frenzy? Because the graphics for the proc is the same as that of Rend and Deep Wound, both of which will trigger Blood Frenzy.

Commentaire de 155673

No one has mentioned, do enchants show on this weapon?
Haven't tried myself on mine, but I'd guess they don't. someone confirm and/or downrate this.

Commentaire de Johnsom

out rolled by a hunter on this ...Talk about Despair...even though iam specced prot atm this belongs in the hands of a warrior not some nub hunter that will pat himself on the back with it and vendor it in a week. but what are you gonna do boned by guild politics they want everyone to walk away with something even if its robbed from worthy hands.

Commentaire de Breck

I thought this thing looked awesome until my wife pointed out that it has a big, heart-shaped hole with pink trim. Somehow, I didn't notice that. It's especially obvious on the icon. Suddenly, getting the season 2 sword has become a top priority.

Commentaire de 175035

got it tonight in kara as a healer pally. Unfortunately she resisted the kick and sheld bash so she healed and romulo rezzed. But we got through it, this dropped and they gave it to me for a ret set :P

Commentaire de 164994

From some afk testing in blasted lands, this is what happened:

512 total attacks
500 White damage hits
12 impales

All impales hit for 540
Out of 12 impales i had 1 crit for 1080, putting crit % for my test at 8.30

Total proc rate: 2.8%

So if you are debating keeping this for the proc, its really not much to justify against anything.

Edit: Prot warrior in prot gear, checking in occasionally to use gift of the naaru, so the damage may not be normal for another spec, just a proc test.

Commentaire de Dvalin

I have this on my warrior, he's 33/28/0 spec and, despite my reservations about the purple/pinkish looks, with a savagery enchant on it it really kicks butt. I had a fun moment with it in Strath the other day when I got MC'd on one of the bosses and completely shredded our 70 hunter and his pet after he forgot to drop a freezing trap. I'm still holding out for gorehowl but for now a least this is an awesome weapon and I'd highly reccomend it to any raiding 2h melee dps.

Commentaire de 52664

Borean Tundra (WotLK lvl 70 newbie zone) quest drops are equivalent to this, FYI.

Commentaire de Zamorakian

Got it last night, working my skills up on basilisks... i am 280... lol anyways the proc hit twice in row 1200 and 1500 (i had no buffs whatsoever) and it werent crits ^^

Edit: i am prot pally... ^^ lol and alrdy hitting 1800 normale attacks with it... sword pwns! looks cool too

Commentaire de 172615

gather round kids, i have a crazy story to tell
me, a ret pally, was happely walking around warsong pwning noob allies when.... i saw an undergeared lock and thought i should go and have some fun
i was using despair and thought it was a great weapon even before this
so this is what made me have to change my pants
i had SoC on
2 impale crits!
1 White crit
1 crusader strike crit
2 SoC procs
altogether it was around 10-11k burst dmg
fully buffed with avenging wrath. i was like :O
gg mister lock

Commentaire de Wren

Competition for these is going to be fierce once 3.0 drops. I know I'd sure love to dual wield these for twice the procs.

Commentaire de Wisdomsword

Lol a fury warrior had 2 of these on him O,O

Commentaire de 397318

Does the proc pull any extra aggro at all?

Commentaire de 157377

OMG, by the screenshots here on WoW, I can see it looks ausum! :O
I'll go get the ... which ish easier to get, because I don't need Kara for it!
Oh wait, unique model! :P

Commentaire de 553061

Reminds me of a sword from Kingdom Hearts (VG), except for the fact it doesn't have a Mickey Mouse key chain hanging off of it.

Commentaire de 142007

DESPAIR
I'm in it.

Commentaire de reid52

I saw a hunter roll on this at 70. Couldn't have facepalmed more when he won.

Commentaire de Paramud

Alright, where the hell was she hiding this on her?

Commentaire de 643018

Coloring is great, almost liquid darkness at some points, i can see this being used for transmogrifying.

P.S. Blizz gotta find a spellable name for that function XD

P.P.S. They did, called mogging by the blues.

Commentaire de xaratherus

With the announcement of gear re-skinning with patch 4.3, I'll probably be running through Karazhan weekly to try and get this on my DK, because it's a sweet-looking skin that doesn't appear to be available on any other weapon in the game.

Commentaire de ubersmurf

So delicious.

Commentaire de 362388

New weapon skin for my DK in 4.3... got this tonight while running Kara

My precious...

Commentaire de Daystar

What, no one commented on how this thing totally looks like a Keyblade?

Well in any case, I know what my Transmog 2H Sword will be...

Commentaire de 901217

This reminds me of Kingdom Hearts a little. It's really awesome!

Commentaire de bratmonkey

anyone else notice the heart shape in the hilt

Commentaire de bojan112

which gear is carrying warr that is dual wielding these swords on the picture

Commentaire de Tibirias

I don't know about the rest of the gear, but the shoulders are the Swiftsteel Shoulders. Unfortunately, they are only obtainable if you're a blacksmith.

Commentaire de MABGamer6407

Kinda looks like something from a kingdom hearts game.

Commentaire de LaCorpse

I made a set around this for my pally :3
I'm still tweaking it here and there but the colors go great.

The only thing I'm kinda "eh" on is the tabard selection (Its needed to hide the miss-matched chest, since I only use it because of the arm art).

I don't show my helms, but I'm sure there is one out there that would look good :)

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare?items=25585:70321:65354:30270:31405:28573.0.4099:10129.1561:27771:25602;31775:27731:8304:21606:14959.1563:58100:70320;28800:45458:32332:31318

I'll update whenever I find something new.

The first group is the set I use and the other groups are alternatives.

Commentaire de meryzz

Drops from Julianne. It has pretty good drop chance.
Tried to solo it as prot pala lvl 83 mostly blue dungeon items and had problems with it cause of debuff from ''Romeo'' which reduced my stats and health from 65K to 20K. Which wasn't so easily when you have to kill them both in 10 secs from both.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Here's an image:

http://www.battlegroup9.net/images/despair.jpg

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this procced 1x for me in about 2 hours of farming lvl 68 ethereals in netherstorm...

my 2H sword skill was 348, dont know if that plays a big role on how often this procs, but the rate seemed pretty bad anyway

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Got this big baby a few weeks ago, being a hybrid spec i cant bring out the full potential of it. but yea even though im hybrid i can still do some massive hits/crits. (spec 31 arms 30 def).

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I'ld give it too a hunter or pally, dps warriors are weaponsmith alot of the times now, because of the lionheart blade/lunar crescent/etc. If u want a 2hander you better just get 20 primal nethers and you got a nicer weapon. Its not too hard, you just gotta put some time in it, and make sure nobody ninja's your nethers.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

haunter weaploon!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

execute is dependent on rage not weapon. so for execute spam you want to generate as much rage as fast as possible. Fury generates rage much faster just because you are hitting more often. The reason you may be seeing bigger executes with a 2h is that you get rage in chunks and therefore use it in chunks. Even though you may see bigger executes with a 2h, fury will usually win out execute spam.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

http://upload.hostinspire.se/data/82e79f0c2cWoWScrnShot_Desapir.jpg

Looks better on a hunter..^^

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Good weapon if you are upgrading from a blue. However it is inferior to almost any other epic 2h sword and the proc, though decent, eats up a large portion of the weapons stat points as well. Still looks great though. :D

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I never liked weapons with procs like these, mainly because they are always mitigated by armor (blackhand doom saw, vis'kag).

After armor mitigation the proc can hit for very little, especially on bear druids and prot pallies.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Warrior testing: It IS modified by 2H talent, death wish, enrage, blood frenzy, rogue hemorrhage, world damage modifiers (stacking effects where applicable). It IS NOT affected by impale talent (for crits). It can miss, and be absorbed by shields. It can't be dodged, blocked, or parried, and is NOT affected by armor. It procs from white attacks, instants (that attack with your weapon), extra attacks, and can chainproc itself. Impale hit/crit is independent of the attack that caused it to proc, and its damage does not generate rage. Crit impale does not proc flurry.

It looks like approximately 3% proc rate with no internal cooldown.
(35 procs out of 1064 attacks = 35/1099 = 3%)

In pve it could make up 1-5% of your total raid damage because of the complete armor mitigation.

In pvp it can provide good burst damage, especially coupled with sword spec, to make even hamstring a deadly weapon.

Base: 600
Crit: 1200
e.g. 2H + Death Wish = 756 hit / 1512 crit

2H + 5% world bonus
SS + WW + Impale

Edited, Nov 18th 2007 11:27am by DocMartin

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This is not migrated vs armor. Does 600 stable hit and can chainproc also crit. The impale effect is affected by warriors enrage/deathwish/impale.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I am currently a retribution paladin (I was holy untill now).
I got this weapon when I was off-tanking in kara (Funny thing is I was holy specced - long story - don't ask - It was a great run anyway). The only 2 people in the raid who could actually weild it were the MT and me and since he had Deep thunder I got that weapon.
Anyway - I specced retribution not so long ago and got to test this sword. I thuoght it wasn't the best sword for a ret pala... I was right. I would trade that "chance on hit" for some crit rating/agi anytime...

I need to test the proc rate a bit more to figure out its value but it seems to proc nicely, although not nice enough :P
The proc is affected by many talents and abilities I have:
Crusade (3%)
2H weapon specialization (6%)
Improved sanctity aura (2%)
Avenging wrath (30%)
I am not sure vengeance affect it - I need to test it out more.

Basically every talent/ability/buff that says damage increase (Like the BM hunter ferocious Inspiration buff) affect its damage.
It can crit (based on my crit rate).
It is an instant bleed effect which means it is unmitigated by armor. It also means that mobs/bosses that are immune to bleed are immune to the proc too.

Overall a nice weapon to start raiding with...
At the moment I'm grinding primals and mining ores to level BS and get a t2 weapon. Although if I'll get gorehowl anytime soon I will just sell the stuff I'm grinding.

If any of you think that I should not get gorehowl (or any other 2h weapon for that matter) because I'm a retribution paladin and I can't DPS, well...
A paladin is the ONLY class that uses a 2h weapon to DPS in raids. You can say whatever you want. You can say that an arms warrior can outDPS me (not true really) but then you ignore the fact that I bring a lot of utility and buffs to the raid. You also ignore the fact that dual weild fury warrior will outDPS a MS warrior. So instead of going with the best way to DPS he "steals" that weapon to PvP instead of giving it to me for the benefit of the guild.
Same with shamans btw -
DW shaman has more sustained DPS than a 2h shaman... period! (exclamation mark)
So if you have a retribution paladin in the guild (and I'm not goign to debate wether or not it's a viable specc, I am just goign to assume he is allowed and wanted as retribution) and you take that weapon over him - Take a look at yourself and stop blaming the ret pala for low DPS when you are the one making it so (We are as gear dependant as you are).

I can't finish this without saying the obvious:
"haunter weaploon!"

Edited, Sep 19th 2007 3:41am by Catroz

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I LOVE THIS WEAPON

the proc is awesome and when it proc it gives a nice chunk of damage. Even better when it procs with Seal of Command or it hits right before a Crusader Strike or Divine Storm. I put the 35 agility on it for 3% crit and it already has the 52 strength. Thats 104 AP for a pally.

Ive gone to horde and they drop like flies when this baby procs.

I would rather have more 2Handers like this on WOTLK. Id be the first one to roll and the only one to put it to good use

Commentaire de Allakhazam

As underwhelming as this weapon is it looks awesome. ;p

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The proc ignores armor, and can crit. It crits for 1200, oddly, not 900 as I expected. Doesn't go off too oftenthough, about as much as my old Blackhand Doomsaw used to.

Screenshot because I can:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/spatulor/Impale.jpg

Commentaire de Allakhazam

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8570/wowscrnshot070207014202xx0.jpg is pic of wep

Commentaire de Allakhazam

dude dont let the gimp bate you there are hunters who come onto weapons that are obviously warrior just to see all the warriors panick and go nooo its a warriors weapon .. dont give the noobs the satisfaction .. if your in a decent guild theyl know whats what

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Nice keyblade.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

It procs all the time and in combination with sword spec and wind fury you absolutely own face.

Sweeping strikes + Whirlwind + Sword Spec + Windfury + Impale = WTFPWNED!

The proc ignores armor completely, is affected by 2H spec 5%, Impale on crits, Deathwish and enraged. Before the death + Enrage nerf i had crits of 2.5k with it.
Hit a bear with that and watch them run.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Does anyone know the Model ID for this weapon?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I have this on my Hunter. Luckily there was only 1 warrior in the raid and he didn't wan't it and the Pallies didn't wan't it so I rolled and won :D

Commentaire de Allakhazam

think they'll change the stats on this sword at all? ap/stam/agi/crit?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this was a dbl post (refer to above)

Edited, Feb 1st 2007 12:28am by KillerPX

Commentaire de Thottbot

not good?

'Impale crits you for 2301'

gief, now!

Commentaire de Thottbot

If you really want this weapon that bad, even if your a priest.. roll on the thing. Just kidding that would be quite a waste for a priest, but I am a warrior I bid more dkp then the pally for this.. thats how it should be. It's a sword, everyone can use one if you have the talent from blizz to your class you can use it..

Just outbid in DKP if you want this, QQ.

Oh, and stop childish arguing over who does more dps, if your killing a mob.. congradulations its a computer. This is a TEAM raid, no need to be egotisical about your dps, god you think we were abunch of mages fighting over damage meter reports in middle of a fight.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Totally agree with merciful...
Besides its not like you do karazhan once when you get the hang of it... most groups consist of a fixed set of guildies which means the drop will be there in time for everyone; warrior, pally or whoever wants it for a toothpick...:P

So please stop moaning and post something useful about the sword itself... Thats what thottbot is about... info on items... nobody is interested in your "who has priority" bull$%^& stories

Commentaire de Thottbot

Big hits. Strength. A damage proc.

Meat and potatoes warrior goodness. Yeah, it's true, if you DPS with your paladin you can use this, but this thing oozes Arms spec warrior flavor.

And lol at the hunter who rolls on this. What are you gonna do with that strength, throw the arrows?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Good for : warrios, LOTSA hits fast and hard and proc is awesome and can crit.
: Paladins : Not amazing stats for us but good for the burst damage.
: Hunters : Go and get Pitted Defias Shortsword...would be better.

GG All those people who have bothered to argue over it. ^ settles it so don't even bother arguing over it again as you'll just be giving yourself less time for the important things in life...

Commentaire de Thottbot

I'm a holy pally and no one else wanted it. Good for pve. Threw savagery on it. Nice upgrade from oathkeeper lol.

Commentaire de Thottbot

hello warriors
and/or people
that knows abit about
warriors with 2handed weapons ,

first of all , please don't mind my bad english.

I have a warrior currently equipping Gladiator's painsaw but i also got Despair a few days after. Now i'm hearing alot of people say that Despair is way better because of its speed and the 'chance on hit' thing beautifully combines with the sword specc.

The problem is i'm a pure PvP warrior (yust doing karazhan for a change) and people say Despair is still better than the painsaw (wich is created 2 have an improved impact in PvP while PvE drops are mostly (= not always) just mend for PvE and are more effective in PvE then in PvP))

I think it's kind of stupid giving up resilience , crit rating (wich is also improved @ poleaxe spec. , and since resil. these days greatly decreases crit. chances its kind of vital , especially for us warriors)and stamina just because of the speed. and chance on hit. (wich are less needed then stam. , resil. and crit. for a PvP warr)

this is lately slowly comming up as a new aggresive discussion (between the warriors) about what is most effective in PvP ; slow (3.5+) or abit faster (2.2+/-) 2 handed weapons.
Because warriors with faster 2 handed weapons (with stats where 2h specc warriors are based on) are outnumbered compared 2 the warriors carrying slow 2handers i'm getting alot of childish reactions with wich they bassicly try 2 tell me that no warrior would EVER take a fast 2handed weapon , but i also got some positive reactions from warriors , wich carry slow weapons themselves or got the same polearm i do , about faster 2h weapons.

I would like 2 put an end too this discussion and could use the opinions and theories of adult non-childish people ,
thank you

...and again please dont mind my bad English / typing :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

giggle. hunter weapon

Commentaire de Thottbot

is it worth it?......
Is this sword worth going sword spec on my warrior? do you still crit decently compared to poleaxe spec? as poleaxe i crit like 35% of the time so idk if the 5% extra attack is worth it
And how is the impale thing it has?

(oh, and btw, f.u hunters who need anything you can equip, i mean, gtfo)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Alright, first of all this is about the item btw and its uses, not who is better at DPS. I myself am a ret pally but I still do good damage with a green 2h sword. If it weren't for crusader strike, yes, warriors might out DPS the pallies. Any class can do damage if they choose to.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Out rolled by a nub hunter on this oh well what you gonna do guild politics...gotta keep everyone happy even the *!@#tards

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i'm gona roll need on this ^&*!@ on my hunter to get back at those !@#$ing #$%^&*adins and ms warriors rolling need on my damn legacy

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You make a valid point. In a kara pug a scrubadin tank rolled need on legacy and so did a warrior, both rolls beat me. I learned to never overestimate the maturity of wow players. Master loot ftw i guess.-

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I can't wait till wotlk so I can dw this with my merc sword :) WOTLK FTW!

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i'm gona roll need on this !@#$% on my hunter to get back at those $%^&ing #$%^&*adins and ms warriors rolling need on my damn legacy

hmmm
im not sure what to say to you, but as a "!@#$%^in" and an ms warrior, i am going to enjoy the spoils shared across my 2 chars..

those spoils consisting of a Legacy, Gorehowl, Hammer of the Naruu, Jin'rohk, AND TROLLBANE (haha :P)

all of which were NOT taken from a hunter, as my guild prefers mages/locks/spreists over the likes of you ppl

o, and i usually spec holy

^ ^
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