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Commentaire de Thottbot

ive been adding up the scores for these two sets and this is what it adds up too-

Because shadowcraft has 8 pieces and this has 6 i took out the SC bracers and belt.

PVP set: (added in set bonuses)

876 AC
93 AP (~15 extra dmg)
4% crit
2% dodge
1400 HP
+1% hit
+1% parry

also a cooldown on gouge & longer sprint

Shadowcraft: (added in set bonuses)

942 AC
162 AP (27 extra dmg)
5.25% crit
9.5% dodge
600 HP
+2 daggers

now for you people out there that think this set totally blows, you're wrong.. it all depends on what game situation the player is in and what build he/she is. in example...

if a rogue plans to start raiding MC, BWL, ony.. etc. i would go with the PVP set because of the health bonus and less AP and crit (less aggro). Also it gives +1% hit which is always nice when fighting higher level mobs.

If ur on a pvp server i would go with shadowcraft just because you'll be able to kill ur oppenent faster (more crit and AP) and thats what rogues are meant to do. but for a rogue on a normal server that likes to pvp (in wsg or AV) definitely choose this set for the health bonus and being able to stay alive long enough to get more honor and get healed. Another good point to choose this set over SC for WSG and AV is that just because SC has more crit and AP doesnt mean you wont be able to dish out more dmg. This set gives waaay more HP than SC meaning you'll be able to stay alive longer to deal out more dmg.

For just instancing and farming it all depends on ur build. If ur a seal fate build go with SC for more crit (more cp) and more ap (bigger blows with BS and ambush) (supposing you use dagger for BS and Ambush, otherwise ur an idiot). If ur using swords (combat or sub specc'd, i would hope) id probly go with the pvp set just because you can't deal out as much dmg as fast as dagger rogues and you'll need the extra health to make up for that.

As for the comment about rogues not needing crit bcuz of coldblood.. u need checked out at the hospital. You were right about all the 1%'s not meaning anything when you use CB.. but what about ur down time when you're NOT using it (either building up ur combo points, or on cooldown) then with no crit the rogue would pretty much be screwed. Sure imp backstab and imp ambush gives alot of crit but its not like its at 100% and couldn't benefit off all the extra 1%'s. Also.. who doesnt like critting SS with sword in mainhand? And extra crit especially helps out seal fate rogues.

thanks for readin this if you have.. please give comments.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Blizzard designed these sets for a reason. Pvp is all about stamina. If you looked at other sets, they are all nerfed except for high amounts of stamina. Yes everyone has stated rogues need agility, but without stamina your going to die before you can even harm a single player. You could have a 1000 agil for all i care, 2 hits from a warrior and your dead.

And stop comparing pvp sets vs end-game sets. They are both designed for 2 different aspects of the game. BF set has insane amount of agil because your going to need it if you ever plan on fighting end-game bosses. And even in end-game sets there is still a good amount of stamina added. Since quite a few of these bosses can do AoE spells that will %^&* you if you dont have any stamina.

Pvp = stamina
End-game = Agility

PS. You can get this set from soloing. Goodluck in taking a few months worth of work to get a full bf or even ns set.

Commentaire de Thottbot

With that much stam you will survive longer. And I play a rogue and I dont like to dodge a warriors attack(overpower)..so I prefer parry..cause I have riposte..or whatever the name is.. So I would say when u have this set..You get as many agi enchants as possible and now you have a lot of hp and deal lots of dmg..
The set looks like the rogue's Gm set(slightly differce in color) So This would be a nice set:)

Rogues ftw

Commentaire de Thottbot

Yes, This set does greatly help in PvP battle situations, but again, It isnt just enough. The epic PvP obtained set is say better then your average PvE sets, (SC, random pieces here and there that rival SC).

As a strictly PvP rogue, you know 30/8/13 is unstoppable. And quite frankly, you just dont get enough crits on abilitys without the added 100+ agil of a normal set. Even with Agil enchants on a weapon and the available pieces, Im still not murdering as much as Id like to.

It is about strait out dmg in single attacks.
Malice, Lethality, Impr. evis, Imp backstab, Opportunity, and Impr ambush are the things a PvP rogue knows is a must. And yes, this does increase your single hit dmg output by insane amounts, but agil does help your chance to crit on abilities. The added agil basically puts this set to shame, if you have the right build. Its true.

You arent made to fight a tank, so dont try unless someone else has already engaged him. Stealth around, stab a hunter, a cloth user, hell another rogue. Stay the hell away from shamans and warriors, theyre not your cup of tea, even with this set. END.

Commentaire de Thottbot

just so people have a better understanding....rogues arnt suppose to come up against warriors in battle grounds. especialy when your trying to fight a warrior and a mage or warlock is flogging your ass anyway in the backround....all rogues are meant to stay away from the main attack area and focus on all the casters that are killing your tanks and pallys....thats why the PvP set has stamina and helps you survive longer when taking out casters.....dont go for the tanks...take out casters and you will win....i rest my case

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http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2161/hp21bj.jpg

full pvp set + fully buffed. i think its kinda ok.

4923 unbuffed / 610 power (minor speed on boots)
203max with ggr.

but i'd still go for ap set for soloing. but this is way better for grp pvp imo.

Commentaire de Thottbot

This set is the only way to go, if you dont like runinng instances 30 times to get your set piece that might not drop. This set rules for rogues nothing better. all you do is throw +9 strength to bracers +7 agi to boots and +7 agi to gloves +8 agi to head and +8 agi to pants both your weapons at +15 a pop your back +3 agi and you are one well oiled machine lookin to drop !@#$ like flies:) ROGUES FTW!

Commentaire de Thottbot

Whoever thinks this set sucks is a morron, and don't compare it to epic sets, IT'S FOR PVP! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!

TiMMaH!
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Commentaire de Thottbot

i beleive its good for pvp but im shure its better to combine the items of this set with other items like the rewards from ab or pieces of sc it is good like it is but i thinkk there are combinations wich are better together with this set,im not a 100%shure wich items but its just what i think ,ill may have a look 1 day and post it

Commentaire de Thottbot

You guys should think of getting this set and get some other dodge, attackpower, crit on it. if u get this set ur a bad ass not killable foe with too much stamina,

u will take 2 swords, mainhand high end damage
you will increase your attackpower and crit even more
if you can manage u even increase your dodge a little bit

you take a very strong, fast damage built, 8/11/32

and u will, beat arses everywhere, either PVE or PVP

believe it or not, if u get some other nice items equiped with this set ur OWNAGE

dont try to arque with me pls
unless u think ur smart

sabmaster lvl 60 nightelf rogue Aszune
Empire of Alliance

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have the complete set and have everything enchanted with agility ( pants and head too) and I put strentgh on my bracers, (no need for the stam to bracers) you get enough from the set anyways. I now have 4013 hp and I have 286 agility and my AP is 46ps so I still drop *!@#, and very quickly:) and warriors are not a prob at all if you play your class properly. Keep them stunned and they are big punching bags lol. Anyways I prefer this set to SC and it looks way cooler too.

Commentaire de Thottbot

This set isn't the best set for a rogue but it does look cool. I will buy the whole set just for looks because it is fairly easy to get and inexpensive. The only two items that I will use are the boots and chest, but at least I can say that I got the full set =)
This set is fairly decent for a Combat Sword rogue, but if you want to get killed in 10 seconds by a warrior get shadowcraft

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The full PvP gear is one of the best things for survival in my opinion. With all of my gear, including enchants and buffs i have well over 6.5k health. Not to mention i have 2- 17 second sprints, plus a free action potion, this set makes for a wicked flag running gear. True you do sacrafice a large amount of attack power and damage to attain such a high amount of health, but when you think about it, so long as you are in a group this is ok. Provided this isnt the best set for soloing, you can mix and mactch pvp and pve gear to find the best mix of damage to health ratio.

This set does take a large amount of time to get, even more time if you dont have a constant group. If you are serious and dedicated to obtaining a high pvp rank, then you should go far.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Can we have some pictures here?

Commentaire de Thottbot

This set is GREAT...for PvP only. Tons of stamina yes, you could survive for quite a while out there in the BGs. But with only 30 agi, this drastically cuts down on your damage.

I, being a rogue that does lots of PvP as well as lots of PvE, realized that this set and the SC set are fantastic for specific types of combat. I plan to get SC for PvE and perhaps some PvP, depending on how it performs in BGs, and this set for PvP.

So, when I need to, I can just switch gear and adapt to each type of combat.

Commentaire de Thottbot

If you're exhalted with AB and WSG, then your damage can be brought back up by a large scale through mixing and matching. Ususally i run the entire set, minus the boots and shoulders for the AB exhalted gear, and the WSG bracers rock for dps. If you experiment around with it you can get a nice mix between health and damage, so you can still dish it out and not die nearly as fast.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Okay, can I please se a picture?

Commentaire de Thottbot

From what I've seen, this set sux. Get the stormshroud gear chest/legs/shoulders and you got a good +5 crit. Toss in the stormshroud gloves or devilsaur gauntlets for another +1 crit.

Why waste your time fighting for hours to get the honor to buy this shiz. Sure stamina is great, but a rogue is made for crits and stamina is better suited for tank, IMO. I prefer to work on improving my crit %, which is now at 27.85%.

Commentaire de Thottbot

heres a shot of me in my pvp set

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/2634/wowscrnshot0513062140455ry.jpg

Commentaire de Thottbot

Knight Captain, picked up the chest, boots, leggings, gloves. I have enchanted anything yet. But I like the added bonus when I have that and the serg cape and bracers on. I keep my eye of rend or the SC cap on with SC shoulders. I actually wear the leggins all the time cause I don't have a better pair, can't pass up that 2% chance to crit.

With the leggings the tombstone breastplate, the eye of rend Darkmantle items, Baron's Cape, mark of the wild and leader of the pack buffs I've gotten up to 30% chance to crit :)

The set is great even though your agi is lowered. Because on AV, which is all I ever do, I rarely engage another player in PvP. And this set helps me stay up when fighting the captains and those freakin warmasters that cleave and crit me in one hit to death without these pieces.

One time I didn't switch out my gear and kept my main PvE gear and I died a lot more.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Hell, even if it was free, I probably wouldn't wear most of this set. Devilsaur Gauntlets and Leggings give more 74 AP 2% crit and 2% to hit and that's just 2 items. This entire set only gives 86 AP 3% crit and 1% to hit for 6 items.

I think they coulda come up with something a tad better.

Commentaire de Thottbot

this set is changed with the coming 1.11 patch, it is now all stamina, AP, and %crit. very nice set imo.

Commentaire de Thottbot

this set is getting a massive upgrade in the upcoming patch (1.11)

IT IS NOW WORTH GETTING!

new stats are listed here:

1228 AC
120 Stamina
174 Attack Power
+5% Chance to Crit.
+4% Chance to Hit
Boot Extra --> Increases the duration of sprint by 3 seconds.

the new set bonus is as follows:

(2) Set: +40 Attack Power
(4) Set: Reduces the cooldown of Gouge by 1 second
(6) Set: +20 Stamina

notice i did not include durability (who cares?)
THERE IS NO DODGE CHANCE!
THERE IS NO AGILITY!
the massive amount of attack power and stamina makes up for this

Commentaire de Thottbot

PvP: You need survivability from the 40 other people spamming AoE and nukes, if you dont have any HP you will die from people not even targetting you. Time spent dieing is time not getting honor.

PvE: You are generally not getting hit, and even if you are, you have a healer behind you to back you up. You need to maximize your DPS so Agi/Crit is the way to go.

The set is fine, Learn 2 Play.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have the old sit but I don�t see any upgrade on it, that should means I have to buy it again from vendor but the question is can I still able to buy the full set after I got my rank down from 10 to 6?

Commentaire de Thottbot

The NPC at the Champions Hall at Stormwind doesn't sell this set anymore.

Don't think the set is still available.

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