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Commentaire de jackmccrack

This is like a Halberd of Smiting Jr.

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=19874

Commentaire de 3118

This is a game-launch weapon. YEARS of Blizzard changing gear (with limited re-vamps on existing items) has made this a dinosaur. It had its heydey when Arcanite Reapers were #1 and this was the freebie. Brainhacker's were THE epic 2h.

With AQ20, ZG, Ony, and even MC being pugged, any player with even limited playtime can get weapons far better.

Doomulus Prime
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=22348#z0z

and

The Unstoppable Force
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=19323

Are quest/rep rewards that are both superior.

Commentaire de 7968

Still, this is probably one of my favorite weapons due to the fact that it LOOKS like a HUGE sword, and not a polearm. Unfortunately as HaKProduct said "YEARS of Blizzard changing gear has made this a dinosaur."

Commentaire de 8455

Definitely one of the best pre-raid weapons in the game. It drops off of Rend Blackhand from Upper Blackrock Spire. Along with it looking ppretty cool for a pre-raid weapon it also has a good COH that procs very often. Definitely a wise choice for 58+ MS spec warriors getting ready for raiding.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Found off of Warchief Rend Blackhand, in Upper Black rock Spire.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Fellow Hunters would roll on this thing? Dear god they must be the worst Hunters on earth. Seriously-Get Barb Blade or Ice Barb. Spear. ANYTHING is prob. better than this for Hunter due to the fact that:

1. This gives no stat bonuses
2. Wounding is great,MAYBE, but other than that you are seriously gimping yourself
3. Another class could really use this better than a Hunter.

So plz, fellow hunters who roll on this, stop making us look bad. There are plenty of better weapons in-game for us that give STATS (which greatly excel over WOUNDING) and can give better abilities like % to crit. Even some that have great dmg to add to the stat/abil. bonuses.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I'm a pally and I got both of them. I did a brief comparison on two polearms.

In terms of DPS:
Peacemaker 50.4 DPS + 56 atk pwr (appox. 4 extra DPS)
Blackhand Doomsaw 54.0 DPS
-I equipped them and check my DPS. I found I got 94.1 DPS w/ Peacemaker but only 93.4 w/ Blackhand Doomsaw.

In terms of Weapon Delay:
Peacemaker 3.4
Blackhand Doomsaw 3.5
-No big difference at all included SoC procs.

In terms of Effect:
Peacemaker 1% Crit
Blackhand Doomsaw Wound Proc on hit
- +1% Crit really makes a difference especially for class like Pally who has low AGI usually. I must have this equipped to pass 10% crit rate ToT.
- Blackhand Doomsaw rarely procs, sometimes it doesn't even proc once within 15 mins or so. However it can be deadly spike in PvP.

Final Consideration:
I prefer Peacemaker on PvE, because the proc rate of Blackhand Doomsaw is really too low and some NPC even immune to Wound and seems the proc can miss like melee attack.
I used to equip Blackhand Doomsaw on PvP, and I did hit over 1.5K with SoC crit + Melee + Weapon Proc.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I am a hunter myself and you need to learn to play... only time you use melee is when pet doesn't hold agro and Feign Death is on cooldown and they all you need to do is wingclip them disengage and stat running away and start shooting your bow... seriously you do not need a melee weapon like this, if you say you need to melee well then roll a melee class for a character cause hunters can't melee worth $%^&. Seriously use Feign Death and move out, and about PvP if you a good hunter you can keep them away from you before they run up to you, and fyi if a warrior gets a hamstring on you your dead trinket has 5 minute cooldown. Learn to play your class, you kill stuff BEFORE it gets to you in PvP and in PvE you have alot of abilities to lose agro. Sheesh stop being idiots....

Thraunduil
Lvl 60 hunter
Silvermoon

Commentaire de Thottbot

My bro and I did a run to UBRS and 10 of us were having some problems with 5 members from another guild being jerks and trying to take over the raid I started.

In the middle of looting rend, their leader demanded I give them Master Loot(ML) because they blamed me for mis-assigning a green item to one of their OWN members that rolled on it (and won). I told them he shouldn't have rolled if that was the case. In trying to blame me, they felt they had right to demand ML when the reality was it was their own mistake.

I said, hell no, it's not going to happen. This all started to take place right in the middle of looting Blackhand Rend. We got through one blue when they demanded ML. They then threatened to leave if I didn't give it up, and I told them they can suck it. They all left, then before I had a chance to have everyone roll on Doomsaw, someone aggroed the back room and we all wiped.

At this point, we started running back to the instance, whereas by the time we got there everyone had left the raid already. So, it was just me and my bro left, so I gave him Doomsaw.

Commentaire de Thottbot

ummm Melee+ Hunter= waste of time creating a lvl 60 character.......need i say more?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Last week.. not bad weapon.. I am a 60 paladin. it procs often enough..so its nice to have that extra damage...I am thinking of putting an enchant on it but not really to sure.. maybe a +7 Damage or if there is a +9 would be sweet..but have to look into that

Commentaire de Thottbot

Got outrolled by a hunter on this sweet polearm,
He had a IBS and told the masterlooter that it sucks for warrior and that he should have it, but the masterlooter told that we both could roll and he wins
Why the &*!@ would a hunter want that polearm?
It gives no bonuses to ranged combat whatsoever.
Imo IBS is better for hunter's but he wanted it for its proc.

60 Warrior who hates hunter's
(Never gonna invite a hunter if im the party leader EVER)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I(59 Warrior) was in a UBRS raid 15 man. We killed Rend, and after that we saw the Dal'rend and Doomsaw Drop. I say need to the master looter, and so does a Paladin. After that a hunter says "need", I laughed and said "Back, off Hunter!". Well the Paladin /rolled a 63 and i got a 93. Hunter didnt even bother to /roll. Go me! Good thing was it was right before the sever restart om Sep 05. =)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I know this is a noob question but i'll ask anyways, which instance is the guy in who drops this?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I got this beast off of Blackhand yesterday, I was the lucky 58 pally to win the roll. The boss that weilds the Doomsaw is in Upper Blackrock Spire and takes a 15 man raid party to kill. Very fun instance, gl with getting your own Doomsaw.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I ve taked key only for this polearm,12 runs...in the first dropped and won from an HUNTER...no more drops -.-"

Commentaire de Allakhazam

sorry for the multi post the computer was being a tard

Commentaire de Allakhazam

got this baby, i'm a lvl 60 pvp-based warrior with arms spec. the average hits I get with this wpn is between 250-350 and crits are almost always around 1000. The execute is around 2200 and my max crit on execute so far is 3790! so to all warriors I can recommand this weapon: it's easy to get and has nice dmg --- get it asap =P

ow yeah, btw, I have +7 weapon dmg enchant on it but gonna change that soon into crusader (when i get my hands on the orbs)

Edited, Thu Nov 10 20:43:47 2005

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Why is ervery1 so lucky,,, think i been 10 to 15 times in UBRS now and it didnt drop, also no LF for me in UBRS... Maybe the dropp change up ? Well patch 1.9 is out 2day and i hope it will be much better for the pala
talents: 29/11/11

Cheers Hellscreamer @ Terenas

An other nice healing weap for the pala : Marteau du Grand croisé

Commentaire de Allakhazam

ok i dont understand this weapon
blackhand doomsaw......saw as in axe is it...no
looks like a giant sword is it?.....no,its a pole arm
0_o

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Does anyone know if this will proc off of wing clip? if so u could sit there and spam wing clip for sum nice dmg :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I saw that stupid epic dagger drop twice in 5 runs and still didn't see this baby, but the run after the epic dropped, this dropped for me. Put fiery on it and I love it.

Edited, Mon Jun 19 19:44:56 2006

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This is such an awesome sword. Too bad I suck and won't be 58 for a LOOONG time.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Wow anyone who gets Crusader on this is absolutely retarded.

1. If you're a MS warrior, wait for a sword (a good one too) and enchant that. AT LEAST wait for Zin'Rokh or OEB.

2. If you're a hunter, at least wait for HOS and get an agi enchant. Even then, there's better choices IMO. Not only that but if you're a hunter and raiding even IBS is better since it already has agi and if you're in a raid and you're a hunter and meleeing...you have no clue what you're doing.

Seriously...I saw so many people saying "OMG CRUSADER" on this it is retarded. I'm using the bloody thing and I think it's stupid (I'm a MS warrior). This is a blue. It's not a bad blue, but it's still a blue. Every 60 epic 2h sword (and polearm and axe) is better than this. Wait for one of those. And "I don't raid" isn't an excuse. You will get into a pug zg at some point and have a shot at Zin'Rokh. Not only this, but if you're a MS warrior, just get relentless scythe or warblade of caer darrow instead because not only are they swords, but they have higher dps anyhow. Yes, this has the wound ability (ala mini-hos), but it doesn't proc often enough to offset the stats on relentless or the frost on WBoCD.

DO NOT BOTHER WITH CRUSADER ON THIS WEAPON, IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Got this weapon also, dropped off Rend Blackhand. The graphics is basically like a big meat cleaver.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

14 runs and no drop @_@

im getting annoyed.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

hehe i got this in my first run in UBRS XD it looks so hardcore...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The only thing that lets this item down for Hunter is the speed

Commentaire de Allakhazam

people don't get this.
It was Leeroy Jenkins' weapon!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

can anyone confirm for me that this IS the best weapon in the ENTIRE game for warriors aiming for MOST POSSIBLE damage in the AVERAGE fight or PvP or PvE, I have heard people say Typhoon > AR and Hammer of the Titans > AR. Or are there any other weapons that can outdamage this one as a warrior.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

ice barbed spear is better, and you can get it at 51.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this friggin thing should be a 2 hand axe
!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

can anyone give a the statistics on this weapon with crusader enchante. Oh and for how every is asking whether to get this if your a pally hammers and swords are pallie tradition but polearms is next on the list so go for it!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

won this 1 by 6-4 :D im pally and its cool weapon.. got on same trip LF chest, rolled 100 on it :> ahh, once a life my luck is better than others.. lol

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Went with guildies this morning and got this on my first trip. From what im reading looks like i got lucky. Was my best instance run to date.Also got Spauldrons of Valor, A nice helm and a few greens. I had a blast.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I have seen this weapon on a Lvl 60 Warrior, and it has very, very nice graphics, I did not think to get a screenshot at the time, but I will try and find him again.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I got it uncontested in a 15-man group, though I was probably the most in need anyway. By the time you reach level 60, you should not still be using Princess Theredras' Sceptre like I was...

This is easily the best polearm currently available. It's a litt...a lot slow, but when Seal of Command goes off, watch out...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I looted this MoFo today during a 15 man raid. All I can say is: Bring it alliance! With chance on hit, I saw as high as 1016, as a hunter, add a 1500+ crit with Aimed Shot...good luck all you 12yo ganking alliance bishes!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

got it yesterday night in my first ubrs-run.
had the big luck that all guys on the raid who could use it had this already or even had a better weapon...after that drakkisath dropped his blood for me and the run was perfect :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Honestly, if you want a good PvP weapon get an Arcanite Reaper. I wouldn't use this to PvP solely because of the fact there are no good stats on it.
Arc Reaper is also better for Mortal Strike.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Its the most dmg'ing weapon in the game, other then the hammer of the titans, but the critting proc makes up for anything. Awesome to see a crazy 990 wound crit... *drool*.

Edit : Correction, there are a few more powerful weapons, but they're craftable only + dont have this nasty proc...

Edited, Sun Jan 30 04:22:14 2005

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I submitted another picture to use but until then if anyone wants to see what they look like you can get a general idea here

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Made this screen after it dropped for me, this is before putting the +9 damage 'chant on it..will go to crusader after I confirm that this is my "keeper" 2 hander

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/guardiansbloodhoof/doomsaw.jpg

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I thought this was a sword when i first saw someone with it, but i didn't get to look at the polearm part...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Just got this the other day. Love it, mainly for the looks. Still not a plus over IBS for a hunter. I lost the roll on the one but the guy that rolled against me had destroyer of worlds and was essentially being greedy. So the ML gave it to me. If I don't get something better soon then I will pop a 25+ agi on it.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Bonereaver's Edge is considerably better than the doomsaw. So if you can get a raid group with enough a$$ behind them to drop the Almighty Ragnaros and then be extremely lucky enough to get the drop and then lucky enough to when the roll on it. then that would ultimately be the best warrior weapon.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Better picture here, unenchanted...

http://mydublin.org/sigs/doomsaw.jpg

Dropped tonight for me, 2 other Warriors in raid, nobody wanted it ! :p

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i have been in UBRS 5 times never seen this baby drop btu whne it does i am gonna roll and win and get a Crusader enchant :) PWN

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i (warrior) got this on my first ever UBRS run but can't even use it yet cause i'm only level 57. time to grind to 58 and replace my truesilver champion.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this last run was my big # 100 and it has only dropped 1 time and i didnt win...i h8 u dalrend

Commentaire de Allakhazam

After having the Lord Alexander's for 2 months getting the Doomsaw was a definite improvement. My regular hits are 250-350 and my high crits reach 1K. However, this weapon is the same rarity and level as the Arcanite Reaper and it should be comparable to the axe. it lacks the higher top-end damage, the +Sta and the + Att Pw and makes up for it with the very nice damage proc.
The problem is that the Doomsaw NEVER procs and as a result it lags far behind the Reaper.

I have to fight and compete with warriors wielding the IBS and epic weapons and the Doomsaw doesn't cut it. After 1,5 months of using the Doomsaw i'm gonna craft the Reaper and be done with it.

Edited, Fri Dec 23 04:26:58 2005

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Can anyone say how often this beauty procs?
Btw... I have 4 runs in UBRS and no drops.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Ok anyone who is going to get crusader on this is a bit of an idiot IMO.

If its a pally i have no clue about it cause of that whole soc proc stacking thing but really the Ice Barbed Spear !@#$s all over this Lance de glace barbelée .
All you have to do is win one AV match after getting a quest.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

have you ever heard of IBS...obliously not, this is no way near the best you can do without doing raids.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Best for palas. Mace from Blaanazar in Strat Scarlet crap. I think thi is best 2H weapon what players can gat without raid dungeons.

P.S. Crusader or +7 DMG on this realy rocks.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Still the coolest named weapon. Still the coolest looking. Still one of the most damaging weapons. Why don't more people get this? I'm a *!@#ing priest and I'm gonna get it just to say I have it.
Of course, I'll also get it on my hunter.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

how ai cand have the white color on the weapon and pls sry for my english iam from romania

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i have been wanting this wep ever since i saw the leeroy jenkins video (its the wep hes using)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I'm so going to get crusader on my doomsaw! this rocks.. :D

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Everybody says Tribal Guardian always drops but I'm still waiting for it to come along. However this polearm always seems to drop when I do UBRS. I've always wondered who actually does use polearms and to find out that it's mostly Pallys, the class nobody respects not even most allies simply sums up my feelings about this drop. Meh.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

ive seen this drop twice now and both times i have lost to bloody hunters

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Commentaire de Allakhazam

For a 60 MS spec war, this or IBS?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

If I were to get my Doomsaw Fiery enchanted, would Fiery and the wound be able to both proc on a single swing? I'm assuming not, and if this is the case, which would get priority? A fiery enchant doesn't seem worth it if it's going to be stuffing the wound proc.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This weapon is far underrated. Sure it dosent come with stats, but after getting mine earlier today and testing it out, i can say its one hell of a hunter weapon. It blows ice barbed spear out of the water in fact. ( i have both)

The wound procs about 10% of the time, and can crit. It crits at the same rate your melee attacks do, in fact.

And yes, you can spam wing clip to get the wound to proc, it can proc any time you deal damage to the enemy. I got a +25 agility enchant on mine, its a keeper.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

just take a screenshot of Rend himself, the graphic is the exact weapon that he uses.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

It is a warcraft 3 Blademaster blade!

I want it sooooooo bad.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

It does not proc that often for me, but when it does it can do up to 600 dmg(crit), it is not damage over time, just an extra 200-300 dmg usually. When combined with my default hit of near 300 and seal of command near 400, it is deadly.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

:D i have this item and i am a warroir FECKING OWNS in pvp

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Arc reaper is still a little better for Pvp then this weapon...
All the chinese gold farmers have this :P

Commentaire de Allakhazam

my main is Gern on feathermoon i ran ubrs 36 times no joke for this polearm it has not droped one time they dont like me becuse im an pally lol

Commentaire de Allakhazam

the proc on this is very nice, anyone know how often it goes off?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

all i can say, is that i hope i get this when my guildies and i go in

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I haven't managed to get my hands on this yet to see exactly what the proc does since I seem to lose to every hunter on my stupid server =x Does the proc do that much dmg or is it like bleed dmg or what exactly?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

god dammit. i was in UBRS and i had an executioners cleaver (i was 60 and sucks at my lvl) and i really needed it cuz i was arms and fury spekked, but then all of a sudden a hunter comes and says that he needs it too, and im like "plzzz dont roll"...then after he still rolls. i got a 93 but then he got a 100. blizzard hates me so bad. T_T

Commentaire de Allakhazam

On my 2nd run in UBRS this dropped, I was the only one to roll need on it out of 2 other pallies and 2 other warriors; very nice because i also got my Lightforge shoulders on the same run.

58 pally; server Hyjal

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I just hit lvl 60 and i am a paladin i was wondering which weapon should i try to get riht now as a new born lvl 60

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Why do ppl act like hunters never need to defend themselves hand-to-hand. I don't care how good a hunter you claim to be, you need melee sometimes and when you need it, you need it BAD.

No matter what class you are you need a good melee item for last effort attack. Every hit counts and if you're going down you might as well take one of them with you if you can.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

How hard is this mob to kill. How many people would you need to take him down?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Uh, best Warrior weapon period for MS Warriors is Sulfuras. The new one anyway. Nothing else compares.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I'm a 60 orc warrior, 31 arms / 20 fury. Got this the other day and had a crusader enchant put on it. It rocks!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

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