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Commentaire de 7939

Do Earth and Fire Elemental Totems share their cooldown?

Commentaire de 97

This Totem is extremely good, contradictory to popular belief. I just used it to tank Durn the Hungerer in Nagrand. He's a level 67 elite Gronn. Our group consisted of a holy priest, elemental shaman (myself), restoration shaman, enhancement shaman and affliction warlock. Took him down with no deaths and the Elemental holding aggro nearly the entire time. One of the more fun things I've done in Outland. =)

Commentaire de 19244

Question:
With a 20m cooldown, does the elemental follow you for the 2minutes or is it bound to the totem?

Commentaire de 18074

He uses a 'proper' taunt, unlike a voidwalker. This means you can use it to pull agro off yourself no-matter how long a mob as been stuck on you.

Commentaire de 23009

I dueled a shaman with this totem to test his hp and damage soak. In my experience the earth elemental seems to gain hit points as the fight goes on; I'm not sure if this is a function of time or healing. At the start, I whacked him a couple of times, and did about 1000hp damage, and he was down to like 60% health. After his owner healed him a couple times and a few more seconds went by, another 1000hp only dropped him to 80% health. After about a minute of the fight, 1000hp of damage only seemed to do like 5-10% of his total health in damage.

More testing is needed. Can anyone confirm?

Commentaire de 34354

How well does the elemental totems scale. And whit what stats?

Commentaire de mezziah

This earth totem, make alot of mobs easier to get down, because high dps and taunt. you can easily kill mobs that are three lvls and elite upon you.

be very happy when you get this one.

Commentaire de rayford

I'm pretty sure that, as of 2.1 (perhaps a hotfix), elemental totems gain a percentage of the Shaman's HP. The fire elemental also gets a percentage of the Shaman's mana. This was designed to help the totems live a bit longer, and in the case of the fire elemental, do a bit more damage.

Commentaire de hiikari

just curious as a low level shammy but does this elemental act like a pet with the attack command and such or is it just attack randomly?

Commentaire de DELPylon

Deploy against a raid in AV and watch your screen fill with "immune" messages from the elemental trying to AoE taunt them all. Likely to draw a few seconds of heavy fire as well, so in a way the taunt works.

Commentaire de footmaster

Is this guy immune to bleed effects? If so is it possible for it to tank Nalorakk in bear form, or at least be the target of the bleeds so one of the main tanks don't get them?

Just a thought

Commentaire de 113400

How much does the Elemental hit for? And how good is it in comparison from the Fire Elemental?

Commentaire de 106166

Is this immune to nature in the same way all other earth elementals are?

If he is, he could be used against the Shaman in Gruul's Lair, as mere immunity to Nature won't prevent holding aggro.

Commentaire de 90829

The survivability of this thing increases quite a bit if you throw an earthshield up on him. Keeping it alive can mean slowly but surely soloing elites.

FYI: It's extremely irritating for a tank when you use this on a boss, since it taunts the mob off of him/her. And in a raid, more often than not it gets one or two-shotted anyway.

Commentaire de corvato

very good for shaman leveling when trying to solo group (2) or even (3). heal the pet, and DPS the mobs between taunts. Very efficient for shamans, any talent.

Commentaire de 80711

The damage mitigation that this guy is incredible. Here's an example: With guild in TK, fighting Solarion. Only had a few people dead when she went into voidy phase, but all the shammys had dropped fire elemental totems. But one, rather than just say oh well, decided to drop their earth ele....which successfully tanked 5% of Solarions health. Granted, all the healers were focusing on overhealing it, but DO NOT overlook the usefullness of this lil' guy :)

Commentaire de 138937

This thing has a fairly proper taunt, takes a bit to get agro off sometimes but usually will. Can tank most elite mobs and makes group quests solo able every 20 mins. One thing, does it receive the buff from wind fury or flame tongue totem?

Commentaire de TheMuffinMan

He is immune to nature damage, so any nature-damage dealing bosses are completely unable to harm it.

Commentaire de 168325

The new 51 point enhancement talent Feral Spirit looks very interesting. They are player controlled, and have a taunt: Twin Howl. Looks like a good supplement to earth elemental totems for multiple adds.

Commentaire de 449154

lay this totem down as a resto shaman while refreshing magma totem and throwing in a couple of shocks every now and then, while healing this guy, and you can solo anything.

Commentaire de 476166

It's fun to use this guy in AV. Throw him down near a marker with guards, and he'll aggro every one from you while you and your team have time to capture the flag and DPS 'em to death. The same goes for any situation where there are dozens of wild mobs around you or your team. He aggros *very* well, and sometimes can even grab some aggro off of a tank. With that comes a price -- he's soft against elites, and without heals, he's a goner.

Commentaire de Tripster

If you prematurely dismiss an elemental, does the 2 min CD reset?

Commentaire de brucek2

The earth elemental is not a pet, so won't show up in your pet frame. I use this macro so I can monitor/heal it via a focus frame:

/cast Earth Elemental Totem
/target Greater Earth Elemental
/focus
/targetlasttarget

Edit: You may have to tap the key you bind this to a couple times, because there's a small delay before the Earth Elemental has spawned and can be targeted.

Commentaire de Azrona

Don't be like me and use it at a raidboss, especially Festergut. He taunts the boss, messes taunt rotation up and wipes the raid.

Commentaire de 236452

Was just doing a quest where I had my Earth Elemental tank for me, and I came across this little gem.

"Grand Magus Telestra says: Deal with this interruption, Keldonus. After you are through, bring me the head of the one they call Greater Earth Elemental. I will decorate my chambers with her skull."

So apparently the game has this npc tagged as a female, which is an interesting touch. It would be cool to see if its Fiery counterpart was tagged as male. Has anyone else come across anything like this?

The quest in question was Dragonblight's Wanted: Magister Keldonus. If your earth elemental engages the NPC first, the above message will display. Try it for yourself.

Commentaire de 634468

Just to give you an idea of the strength of this "pet", he tanked the second stage of the fight against Ingvar the Plunderer with the tank and one dps dead, and the healer still had over half of his mana left after the fight and did not have to struggle to keep him alive. It's an extremely handy tool to have in the unfortunate situation of tank deaths as it can easily take their place for a short time.

Commentaire de 451146

As of the infamous 4.0.1, it's currently bugged and only helps during the first battle after activation. Henceforth it simply stands while I move to the next mobs.

Commentaire de 2602

I've noticed some different behavior on this guy since the patch and wondered if anyone else is seeing what I'm seeing.

As before this little lady (as per the previous comments) will taunt a mob however after watching omen for a bit I've concluded that as soon as it detects an action done by someone in a tanking spec (watched on Druid in bear form, DK in blood presence and warrior in defensive stance) it will stop taunting and won't taunt off that character for the duration of the fight.

This seems to be on any level of mob. A good tank was able to keep aggro no problem during the brann event in HoS while this was up and the elemental hasn't pulled aggro on Cyangosa in numerous runs of VH.

If you watch omen you'll see a quick spike and a sudden target change to the elemental, however as soon as the tank does their next action all threat the EE has drops away and it never seems to taunt again.

Makes this a decent pet to use in any real situation where the other totems are of little value. Which of course happens far more often then before as Devo aura and stoneskin no longer stack and a myriad of classes (and a hunter pet) can all give strength of earth.

Assuming you're not glyphed for stoneclaw (which I couldn't see too much of an argument for that in resto, though it would have its uses) you can use this with little fear in most any situation.

As an added bonus, it's possible to have this pet up and the fire one simultaneously due to resto's increased totem duration. The 2 minute cooldown remains but the increased duration allows you to cast fire elemental with around 40 seconds left on the earth elemental.

Commentaire de 355273

With the new talent from Restoration Totemic Focus, both elementals lasts 20% longer (2:48s), allowing you to pop the second one after the 2min cooldown and having both of them active at the same time.

Commentaire de 170113

I think it should be noted that Tanks deeply resent it when a Shaman pops one of these suckers during a boss fight. Nice healers let the player controlled meat-shield do his job.

Commentaire de Malfious

Had this guy die from a single hit on mini-bosses like Problim & the shark Tank, he seems to spawn with roughly 8k hp or so for about half a second

Commentaire de jjanchan

Here is a summary of information for the Totem d'élémentaire de terre.

This ability is learned at level 58.
Totem d'élémentaire de terre summons Elémentaire de terre supérieur. This summoned creature is tethered to the totem, and targets that move too far away from the totem will cause the Earth Elemental to stop attacking and return to it. The MoP level 45 talent will allow you to relocate your totems, thus moving the location that the Earth Elemental will tether to.
The health of the Elémentaire de terre supérieur varies with the level and the health of the shaman, and is dictated by the HP of the shaman at the exact moment when the totem is dropped. After it is dropped, the health of the elemental will not change, even if that of the shaman does (e.g. health buffs, etc.).
As of MoP, guardians including the Earth Elemental update their stats dynamically, including haste, crit and attack power. As such, it is not essential to time the dropping of these totems with maximum procs/buffs, as they will still benefit from them even once active.
Buffs cannot be cast on the Elémentaire de terre supérieur. It is not healed by passive heals like Totem guérisseur or Etreinte vampirique. Due to dynamically updating stats, however, it does benefit from Furie sanguinaire/Héroïsme/Distorsion temporelle and by passive buffs/auras (indirectly, through the shaman).
The attack speed of the Earth Elemental is determined by the caster's melee haste, not spell haste.
The elemental can be targeted by friendly players, and can be healed directly.
All damage dealt by the Elémentaire de terre supérieur is physical damage. However, the amount of physical damage dealt by the elemental is determined by the spellpower of the casting shaman.
The melee attacks of the Earth Elemental can crit and can also be glancing blows. The elemental can block and dodge enemy attacks.
The Earth Elemental inherits the hit chance of the shaman that summons it - if the shaman is not hit capped, the elemental will miss at the same rate as the shaman.
This totem is an Earth totem, and as such will replace any other Earth totem you currently have active (including , Emprise de la terre and Totem de séisme).
The Elémentaire de terre supérieur uses an AoE taunt called Colère de la Terre. It uses this ability at random, and it is sometimes used on cooldown by the Earth Elemental. Bosses are immune to this ability, so have no fear of taunting off the tank. That being said, it will taunt adds, so it is inadvisable to use it when add control mechanics are required.
When activated, the Elémentaire de terre supérieur (untalented) will run to and start attacking the nearest hostile target - with a red nameplate. If there are no nearby hostile targets (e.g. neutral targets are the only ones in range, or hostile targets are very distant), the elemental assumes a defensive mode - it will only engage a target once the shaman is attacked.
As of Mists of Pandaria, the cooldown of this totem is 5 minutes and the duration is 1 minute (down from 10 minutes and 2 minutes respectively).
When activated, Totem d'élémentaire de terre triggers a 1 minute shared cooldown on Totem élementaire de feu, and vice versa. As such, both of these elemental totems cannot be active at once.
The level 90 MoP talent supercharges the Elémentaire de terre supérieur; this increases it's damage by 50%, and adds a pet bar to the shaman's interface, allowing you to control the elemental. As well, this talent grants the Earth Elemental 3 new abilities in addition to Colère de la Terre:
- Reduces damage taken by the Earth Elemental by 40% for the next 10 seconds.
- A 4-second stun that can be used on the Earth Elemental's target.
- A channeled ability that the Earth Elemental can use, reducing the damage that the shaman takes by 20% and increasing healing done by the shaman by 10% (as long as the Elemental's channel is uninterrupted).
Shortly after the Elémentaire de terre supérieur is activated and starts attacking, it will move behind the target, and prefers to attack from there, assuming it is not tanking the target itself.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

At lv 66 it has approx 5000 health. Don't know if it increases per level or not cooldown is a little much for it's utility 10 minutes would be nice

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The Earth Elemental that is summoned only stays around the totem and doesn't do very good damage. It does however hold aggro very nicely to get you out of a jam.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Confirmed, 20 minutes.

Edited, Nov 17th 2007 11:21pm by Cypherpunked

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Cooldown: 20 minutes

Commentaire de Allakhazam

can you summon the earth elemental and the fire elemental at the same time?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Since this spell actualy creates a totem which summons the elemental,does that mean the earth elemental is chained to the totem and cant go far or does it follow you?

Commentaire de Thottbot

That's right.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Not great damage, limited mobility, long cooldown, and can't be used in arenas. It has about 6k health and only moderate armor. The only saving grace is it's amazing ability to hold agro. PvE only pretty much. PvP it's a waste of mana, and as I mentioned it can't be used in arenas because it's cooldown is higher than 15 minutes.
It's best use is hold agro of a larger pull in an instance or something because even on bosses it dies too quickly and is a waste of healer's mana to keep it up. The only other use is to save your ass when running away from NPCs. Drop it and you get a few more seconds to run.

Commentaire de Thottbot

well all of those things and it can be banished

Commentaire de Thottbot

we would all much rather have the classic purple spirit wolves. they would at least be cool.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Stop complaining that the earth elemental doesn't do much damage, that's what the fire elemental is for. Earth is for pulling aggro in PvE, an instant cast extra 7000 health is pretty damn nice, even if it did 0 damage.

Quote from fire elemental page:

"for a pet, it does a lot of damage. Just now I saw mine crit blast wave for 1100 (700 regular). fire blast does a chunk of damage too, about 500.

Also, keep in mind that this does not require talent points to get, unlike the mages water elemental which requires all 41.

Commentaire de Thottbot

For those who are reading this without being a 68 shaman, there is a 2 min cooldown between elemental totems.. you can pop your rock guy, but then you gotta wait 2 min for the fire.. on the up side, my fire elemental damn near killed a rogue that tried to gank me while I pickin flowers. :)

And right after posting that first part, I got my rock to tank a 70 elite, so it's definitely worth having... who needs a friend when you have something you can create?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Well i have to say the Cooldown for this is not fair imo but the totem itself ive found quite useful, Atm im only 66 (just got the totem ^^)
and i took a lv 68 elite by myself its up to you what you guys think about the totem but i think its not bad but id love blizz to reduce the CD or something :D

Commentaire de Thottbot

I use this on bosses/elites and with a little heal it can tank them while I or my group killes whatever we are killing. 20 min cd is a bit /cry, gife 2 min! ^^
Then I could spec resto and use this to solo instances :O

It is immune to many things that normaly does a lot of damage on a normal tank. It has very good armor and not a bad health either. Dps isnt to much, but it holds aggro of anything. (never seen any1 taking aggro of it without using taunt)

Commentaire de Thottbot

If anyone is having trouble on the final boss in Shadow Labs, this guy totally rules. Immune to most nature attackand recieved minimal damage, your healer isnt going to have much trouble doing his healing thang. 2 minute super-tank.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have to say as a sham main, when I first saw this spell in the list from Bliz, I was disappointed it was a totem, because it would seem to be virtually worthless in pvp. One nick on it, and bye bye elemental + 20 min cd. However, having used it several times in bg's (mostly Eye of the Storm) I have to say this is the most entertaining thing I'm able to use in the bg! It's hilarious watching Allies run around it frantically, while you see Immune Immune Immune pop up on its head over and over. It does ~140 damage per hit, not much, but not to be ignored either. I believe it's more the scare factor than anything else tho that makes it effective.

The first time I used it in Eye of the Storm, there was a heated skirmish ongoing around the middle flag, seemingly at a stalemate. I was attacking allies who ventured too far from their group and throwing a heal here and there. I figure, what the hey, I'm prolly gonna be here at least 10 more min anyway, lets see what this elemental will do here, if it even lasts more than 3 seconds.

That thing ran straight to the middle of the allies as if I were directing it, myself. A couple of them tried attacking it, but it was often immune, and they werent doing a lot to it. Suddenly most of their team was backstepping in a semi retreat mode. He chased them off the middle bridge, and well beyond. I very much doubt he was still within range of the actual totem. I felt like I had just summoned Lok from AV on these guys haha! When some dead Ally reinforcements made their way back to the scene, they started focusing on it more. Hiding behind a large rock mound, I was able to get a heal on it, and wouldve easily and gladly done more just for kicks, but I was oom. Ah well, the damage was done, so I guess he be leavin'. :P

Since then tho, the elemental most often lives longer than I do lol. A couple somewhat obvious tips if you're going to use it in pvp. Put it down in pitched, fairly even battles. Try to hide the totem, itself, on the outskirts of the skirmish, preferably in some more difficult to find area. Behind a rock or in a crevice in the terrain. Trust me, your elemental will know where to go. Oh, and try not to die too soon, so you get a good chance to see it in action! :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

this more of a guardian than anything else, immune to alot of things, good tank, u dont like it use ur fire totem

Commentaire de Thottbot

That if someone sics one of these on you in Area 52, the guards don't attack it, but the second you retaliate you will feel the hurt.

Commentaire de Thottbot

How far away can this elemental be away from its totem before it disappears

Commentaire de Thottbot

He tanked durn a 67 elite in nagrand just a few min ago. A couple times someone pulled aggro but he always got it back. It was me and a priest healing.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I only use this elemental for:

PvE pulls that go wrong
Instance pulls that go wrong
Soloing elites

Because it has an AoE taunt ability, it's useful for getting guys off you. This is not, however, the ideal PvP totem. I'd much rather use fire elemental for burst damage in that case.

Commentaire de Thottbot

This is good for example if u boost some1 and also in normal PvE it gives nice healing break although this is lot worse than the fire elemental but this is only my opinion ^^

Commentaire de Thottbot

The cooldown is ridiculous! I don't mind the fact that you can;t use thm at the same time but 20mins! I'ts stupid. What I would Like to see is Blizzard taking it down to 15mins so we can shove these in arenas. anyone in a 5v5 + Fire elemental totem or Earth shoul quake in there booties =P

Commentaire de Thottbot

When this elemental is summoned, is it like a hunter's pet, where you control its abilities(agressive, defencive,passive,stay,follow,attack,etc.) or is it like the pet of the SM boss drop, Dog Whistle? And that it have any other abilities other than simple attack? If they do, what are they?

Commentaire de Thottbot

I just picked up this totem and i gotta say it is awesome for soloing elites or if you get in a
"Oh ^&*!" situation! Excellent to pull agro off you or for when you get sick and tired of that one rogue sneak attacking you, just pull this guy out, RAWRRRR!

That being said, a 20 minute cooldown is freaking insane, c'mon now Blizz be realistic. I understand the 2 min CD between the two elementals, but they definetly need to reduce the CD on these guys down to 10 minutes max. I mean I've never once heard someone complain that Shamans are overpowered, drop the CD on this down to 10 minutes and well actually have a chance in PVP.

Your Thoughts?

Commentaire de Thottbot

read the description on the earth and fire it says "protects the caster and allies" and the fire one says "rain destruction on the casters enemies"

Commentaire de Thottbot

I just got this spell last night. Someone asked me for help with the Bird elite in Lower City. This thing tanked like a champ. It never once lost aggro and my sham hits like a train!

I LOVE IT!

Commentaire de Thottbot

Got this spell a couple days ago, and i love it. it will not lose aggro, and it saved my group a couple times in ramps when our tanks health got low. It also helped me do a couple quest with ease when taking big aggros. like havin my own personal tank.

Blahanter-66 dreanie shaman
Gilnease realm

Commentaire de Thottbot

Good at tanking Murmur in SL, since most his attacks are nature damage and this elemental is immune :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

do you need to be resto to can summon it?

Commentaire de Thottbot

I use this while PvEing, its very helpful.throw it a heal everyone once in a while and you can take more than 4 at a time.

So i use my Fire Elemental to help lowbie guildies/friends.i pull the whole instance and drop my fire elemtanl and he fire novas and thats the instance! ( well the bosses will have about half health left)

All in all the elementals a shaman can summon are very helpful.
Earth elemental is very useful againt murmur ( last boss in shadow labs) because the earth elemental is immune to nature attacks and most of murmurs are nature attacks XD

Although the cooldown completely sucks , we can
HORDE SHAMMIES FTW! Get over it.
Junnda( currently low level bu ive played a 70 shammy before so i know this)
Smolderthorn
Horde

Commentaire de Thottbot

Look i dont know about you but those fire elementals in elemental plateu seem to knock off alot of health over time.... So what's great is this guy right here :). He can keep the aggro and he'll automatically pick off the next guy to farm haha. Pluss it seems like if there is a rogue or something nearby... he's either scared of this guy or loves to walk really really slow to his every kill.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Excuse for bad english.
Does anyone know a good addon to monitor elementals' presence/health/mana? In fight it's hard to mouse them and watch stats.

Commentaire de Thottbot

this is fun to use in battlegrounds, even though the cooldown is outrageous. its also prety good in pve, i used it to tank an elite. he's REALLY REALLY REALLY cool! HULK SMASH!

Commentaire de GhostGhost

Really strong tanking elemental.
You can solo elite quests with this that previously would be impossible.

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Totem d'élémentaire de terre

Totem d'élémentaire de terre
24% de la mana de base

Instantanée	10 min de recharge

Outils:

Totem de terre

Invoque un totem élémentaire qui appelle un élémentaire de terre supérieur pour protéger le lanceur de sorts et ses alliés. Dure 2 min.

Détails sur le sort

Durée

2 minutes

École

Physique

Mécanique

n/d

Type de dissipation

n/d

Catégorie GCD

Standard

Coût

24% de la mana de base

Portée

0 mètres (Soi-même)

Incantation

Instantanée

Recharge

10 minutes

GCD

1 seconde

Effet

Summon (Totem élémentaire de terre)
Valeur : 7401
Rayon : 5 mètres
Multiplicateur JcJ : 1

Marqueurs

Ne peut être utilisé en changeforme
Totem
Ignorer les prérequis au lancement du totem
Pas dans une arène
Réinitialiser le temps de recharge à la fin d'un combat

Totem d'élémentaire de terre

Buff

Détails sur le sort

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