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Commentaire de 6233

Is there only one rank of this spell, or have higher ranks just not been submitted yet?

Commentaire de 6233

This seems to be another PvP ability. It would be hard to judge and time in PvE. There seems to be no good reason to prefer it over Rejuvination. In PvP, however, it's an excellent counter to enemies who love to dispel HoT's, it being the compliment to Warlocks' Unstable Affliction DoT.

Commentaire de Carighan

It's a very powerful HoT even in PvE. You forget that for every Druid there can be 3 stacks on it. So Rejuvenation + 3x Lifebloom is sick healing.

Commentaire de Geno

After playing around with Lifebloom, it has some interesting traits about it.

1. Lifebloom 'ticks' that heal are counted towards your healing and aggro. So it's very low aggro until the burst. However, there's a second interesting trait about it.

2. Lifebloom 'burst' heals are counted towards the person that HAS Lifebloom active, not you. This means that if you run any kind of 'healing meters,' it will be skewed (I'm now a Lifebloom worshiper vs Rejuv in most cases, unless I'm healing an MT, where I use both, and refresh Lifebloom's stacks as needed).

What this means, though, is it's EXTREMELY low aggro. How come? If the healing from Lifebloom's burst (Most of the healing in a good chunk of cases) is let's say... A 1000 heal (Not a whole lot, but enough)... That 1000 heal's aggro goes to the person that got healed, not you. This means that you could buff all 5 people in a group in a rotation (Buff party member 1, 2, 3, 4, then yourself... Then start back at one. The First 'bloom' will be done by then, since the Global cooldown will not allow you to rebuff it.

This means that if your ticks heal for... Let's say 100 a tick. This means you'll have a total of 7 * 5 * 100, or 3500 healing. Think of it like a Healing Touch rank 10 heal, basically, except over the course of about 15 or so seconds. However, you had 5 blooms. Let's call them 1000 heal 'blooms' there. That means it's another 5000 healing aggro. HOWEVER, since Lifebloom's burst heals heal for the person they buffed, THEY get the aggro. Not you! That means you avoid 5000 healing aggro!

Truely, this will be a very low aggro spell for any Druid. And if you heal a main tank with this, it'll give them just a little more aggro. Now, of course, the aggro also goes to any raid members you use this on, but even so, it won't be substantial enough to make a huge difference in a raid. But in a 5 person party, it can. But it just makes Lifebloom that much better, in my opinion, since you won't draw near as much aggro as you would casting 5 Rejuvs and dropping one or two Healing Touches, versus 5 Lifeblooms instead of the Rejuvs.

Less mana per point healed, less aggro vs Rejuv, and stackable to any situation. Not to say Rejuvination is bad (It's still an excellent spell to use, believe me), but Lifebloom will truely be my new primary method of healing vs Rejuv.

Commentaire de 18784

this is nice for tanking too, lifebloom then rejuvination, shift bear and start hammerin' on em

Commentaire de 5409

Stacking increases the regen and efficiency.
IE base Lifebloom 220mana 273health
Right before the last tick on a 3 stack life bloom over and over gives a 819 health HoT for 220 mana. As long as you are dedicating to refreshing before the timer goes out. Very efficient and very low aggro.

Commentaire de Darkpower

Lifebloom is to buffs, what UA is to debuffs, seeing as when its dispelled you're healed, so it is protection against those dispel/purge happy players.

Commentaire de 33543

Lifebloom (Rank 1)...
Do we know anything about a rank 2? Or assume it'll be a future book drop?

Commentaire de 21328

I don't know how I've lived without this 64 levels. On most battles, have always a 3 stacked lifebloom on your tank. Or you could let them explode so he gains more aggro and you can heal better. And it's so damn efficient...

Commentaire de 20686

2.1.0 Patch notes:

"Lifebloom": Each additional application of this spell will now include the full bonus from effects which increase healing. The final heal, however, is still unaffected by stacking multiple applications of this spell.

Commentaire de chonchu

Since patch 2.1.0 Lifebloom is just the best healing spell any druid can use ever and period.

Before the patch I was even thinking about re-rolling like a paladin or a priest but now theres no way. I say this cause in any raid instance in TBC all mobs and bosses use burst damage. They can take anyone down in a couple secs if healers don´t start right away. Bein a druid castin reju is not enought since it ticks just every 3sec. Regrow is very mana expensive and HT just don´t heal a lot or takes up to 3sec to cast and the guy is dead.

What happens now is, the druid´s lifebloom costs 220 mana. With the gear I have now when I apply 03 stacks it ticks (with treeform aura) around 750 HP / Sec.

So between any damage the MT takes and the first heal get to him (for instance a flash heal) you have at least a 02 sec window wich means you just healed the MT for around 1,5k and you just multiple this for each time the MT gets hit. When all the healers get feared, you gonna heal him for over 5k if the bloom don´t crit at the end.

Since its a instant cast the whole fight I just keep 03 stacks of MT and OT. Keep always reju on the MT, if he goes down too quick, pop switf.

I didn´t believe until I saw the Healing metters, its just absurd.

And yes, if you have 02 druids theres no way your MT can go down gettin healed for over 1,5k every sec plus the normal healers you have on the group.

Good trinkets like https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=28727 and consumables for mp5 like flasks and mana oils just make you free to do it the whole fight.

Commentaire de grawss

The lifebloom stack takes advantage of your total healing the moment you start the stack. Therefore, if you pump up your healing immediately before starting the stack, you will have that amount of healing applied to that stack even after your buffs go away.

Commentaire de Tauton

Patch 2.3.2 notes;

Druids
* Lifebloom: When this ability is refreshed it will take on the strength of the incoming Lifebloom effect, rather than maintain the existing strength.

Pretty much stops the above from happening, which is a good thing imo, as you could use all +healing trinkets/buffs available, and just keep LB stacked, which was over powered, especially in a pvp sense.

Commentaire de 115537

A question: Seeing how the final heal is unaffected by the number of lifeblooms stacked, does purging two out of three lifeblooms trigger the heal?

Commentaire de Carighan

As of the newest 2.4 PTR patchnotes, "Lifebloom healing coefficient has been reduced".

Anyone got details on this reduction?

Commentaire de 130155

I would just like to add that lifebloom is by far the best druid healing spell in 5 mans.

1. It is low mana cost
2. i only have 1440+healing but when i stack 3 together it heals for about 600 a second (800 or so on a lock with their lock shield)
3. i regen more mana over 6 seconds than it takes to cast the lifebloom to restack it on the target for another 7 seconds, this means that if the target is getting hit in a 5 man for 1k or less a hit(which is usually the case unless in a heroic) i will never run out of mana
4. The 7 seconds AND the burst of life at the end is great if a target gets hurt a little, u can stack one on it and then let the lifebloom end healing anywhere from 1.5k to 2k
5. For pvp its nice because u can stack it with rejuv and become almost unkillable with the right gear, and also if a shaman purges it you still get the burst of life at the very end which has saved me life on a couple of occasions.

This is nothing extremely important and i just wanted to bring it up to people who may be new to the druid class.

Commentaire de 97145

The pendant of the violet eye will now be a very viable druid trinket come 2.4, as the intel will increase their MP5 with spirit, which could be of huge benefit. Come 2.4, I will use the Violet Eye for fights where mana is important, and the Scarab of the infinite Cycle for when I need to heal alot of members quickly.

Commentaire de Arkuray

Do you get the "dispel heal" If you left click the buff (self dispelling it)?

Commentaire de 121040

If a mage spellsteals this, does the bloom stilll burst?

I know when I spellsteal this when I'm playing my mage, the burst heals me, but I'm not sure if spellsteal counts as a purge/dispell and thus blooms on the target I stole it from or not...

Thanks.

Commentaire de 111622

Druids will use this and stay alive for years. The only way to kill a Druid, because of it's 3 ticking heal spells, are critical hits from a Mage's pyroblast, or from a rogue's cold blooded ambush.

All it takes is 5 mouse clicks while it will take an entire group to take down a Druid spamming these. Most of them these druids don't attack, they just spam this spell and stay alive forever. Wound Poison from rogues is a good idea, and mortal strike from a Warrior is also a good idea. stunning them doesn't work either, they always pop right outta that.

Mages can steal it 1 by 1, as well as all the other spammed heals on the druid which can help give your other teammates about 2 seconds to attack before the healing druid spams more of them. oh and sheeping them doesn't do any good.

Priests can dispel these too, but you're basically giving up all your mana for a couple healing dots on 1 target which will be replaced by just a spec of the driud's mana while spamming more. also if you're a shadow priest you can use silence whenever they feel the need for more healing dots.

Hunter's viper sting will work eventually, and for marks hunter's you can try silencing them for a couple ticks.

Warlock dots are pretty pointless here, only equals it out kinda, if you got the right pet out you can spell lock them and hope it works at the right time. Try unstable affliction first to even with all the healing dots.

Other than that, the best way to stop a healing druid from this type of behavior, is to catch it in a healing cast like regrowth, and use counterspell or kick or earth shock or whatever, and lock it out of its healing class for a little bit.

Most of these druids that do this will jump a lot too, usually in the direction away from the crowd. Most of them are Tarrens, males. Also, it's a good idea to hop back into bear form after spamming these, not just to avoid more damage, but to look funny while jumping.

As you can see, it takes a lot more than 1 person to kill a healing druid, thanks blizzard!

Commentaire de 147735

Lifebloom is ridiculously, insanely mana efficient. Add in the fast tick time and the capability to stack, and you have one of the best (if not the best) healing spells in the game. With enough +healing (maybe Kara level) you could heal 5-mans with just this spell. It's that good.

If you're a Druid and you're not using this spell, you're wrong.

Commentaire de 151997

Another comment on the final burst heal of Lifebloom:

I have seen Lifebloom's burst crit a few times, and it always surprised me, considering that spell crit is not a high priority on a Resto Druid's stat list - it seemed to happen more often than it should.

Turns out, the burst heal on Lifebloom has a chance to crit based on the -target's- spell crit stat, not the casting druid's. Lifebloom on mages, locks, an ele shammies, is going to crit a LOT.

Commentaire de 125097

This spell alone is why i think druids are the best healers in the game. Its cheap, heals well, stacks and has low agro when you let it bloom. Whats not to like?

Commentaire de ytrewq

In Tree of Life form, Lifebloom costs 176 mana.

Commentaire de Ravensceen

I am not the only one who cant wait for Lifebloom rank 2 AND 3 in WoTLK! :)

Commentaire de Ravensceen

Rank one and two in WotLK:
Rank2 ;
Heals the target for 350 over 7 sec. When Lifebloom completes its duration or is dispelled, the target instantly heals themself for 770. This effect can stack up to 3 times on the same target.
Instant cast, 295 Mana, 40 yd range

Rank 3:
Heals the target for 441 over 7 sec. When Lifebloom completes its duration or is dispelled, the target instantly heals themself for 970. This effect can stack up to 3 times on the same target.
Instant cast, 430 Mana, 40 yd range

Source : http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=702

Commentaire de Mike

does any know the lowest level character you can cast this spell on?

Commentaire de 52378

Buffs (inlcuding HOTs) can only be placed on players up to 10 levels below the level you can learn (or talent) the buff. You learn Lifebloom at level 64, so you can only Lifebloom players 54 or higher.

Commentaire de 169612

Lifebloom got nerfed now heals 224 over 7 seconds
costs 14% of base mana

Commentaire de jinkuzo

Your mana/heal ratio is only correct if you're healing the 5 targets with it, otherwise you're wasting mana for no reason. Wild Growth doesn't replace any of your HoTs it just finally gave us an AE heal that doesn't have a cooldown

The nerf to lifebloom was also made to address mana issues with druids..that a druid with enough mana regen could continually cast lifebloom and never run out of mana..and the amount it healed supported that fact too.

However they didn't nerf it beyond use, it's still the 2nd best HoT we have next to rejuv.

Commentaire de 243048

The defining spell of druid healing, this spell is simply amazing.

Commentaire de Blackskuul

I have seen many spells of casters and they say "mana cost x% of base mana". Does that mean of mana before buffs, before stats from gear are added, or what? Clarification of this would be most enjoyed.

Commentaire de 238760

does this stack with regrow?

Commentaire de 169285

The spell power coefficent of lifeblooms heal over time and direct heal values are as follows:

HOT-66.84%(77.4% with empowered rejuvination)
DH-65.5%(80.21% with empowered rejuvination)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_power_coefficient

Commentaire de 193698

If you have 1733 Bonus Heal and the lvl 80 lifebloom trinket, it ticks 1000.

Commentaire de 109170

Lifebloom: Mana cost of all ranks doubled. When Lifebloom blooms or is dispelled, it now refunds half the base mana cost of the spell per application of Lifebloom, and the heal effect is multiplied by the number of application

effective 3.1

Commentaire de 50125

Just a question because I'm not on the PTR.

Isn't it going to make a difference if your target dies. It is not dispelled and doesn't complete its duration....

Commentaire de 109170

um if your target dies and its a tank its a moot point.....

Commentaire de 50125

um if your target dies and its a tank its a moot point.....

Correct for PVE.

Take a pvp perspective for a second. Of course if your 2v2 partner or even 3v3 partner you have bigger things to worry about than the couple hundred mana you lost out on. But in bgs and wintergrasp I find myself putting up lifeblooms constantly with wildgrowth. If I don't get the mana back because some mage with 12k hp gets killed with 3 stacks of lifeblooms on it I'm going to be a little upset.

Commentaire de 346522

Do anyone know if we will get mana refunded if this spell is cast when we have the omen of clarity proc up? That cast of LB would not cost any mana, so half of that would be 0, but maybe we will get half of the usual mana cost refunded.

If we do, this would be a nice source of mana.

Commentaire de 106144

These are rounded numbers and shouldn't be cited for data-intensive theorycrafting, but I thought I'd share the math on the new lifebloom with everyone.

For a druid with 2000 spellpower, lifebloom talented and glyphed (to 10 seconds), and the tree of life (20% cheaper hots and +6% healing) buff, these are the general numbers and how they interact as you "roll" them (note that lifebloom's initial cost is ~720 mana, but half of it is returned per application that is allowed to "bloom" - applications of more than three stacks cost the full 720 mana per refresh):

PERIODIC PORTION: Ticks for ~400 per stack, 4000 total, 12000 maximum
BLOOM PORTION: hits for ~3200 per stack, 3200 total, 9600 maximum

Assuming each lifebloom is cast as it's predecessor is about to expire, but not quite:

APPLICATIONS: - - - 1 - - - - 2 - - - - 3 - -|| - 4 - - - - 5 - - - - - 6
----MANA COST: - - 360 - - 720 - - 1080 -|| 1800 - - 2520 - - 3240
--NET HEALING: - 7200 - 18400 - 33600 || 45600 - 57600 - 69600
--HOT HEALING: - 4000 - 12000 - 24000 || 36000 - 48000 - 60000

Notice how the net healing goes up exponentially as you hit the third application, and then tapers off to a 12000 return er application after three stacks. Notice also that the mana cost stays quite low up to three stacks, but shoots up on the fourth and up. I also included the numbers that come solely from the hot portion of the heal, in case you're fairly certain that your bloom won't hit. In that case, it looks like you're not losing much mana per healing by refreshing it a fourth time, but you do start to see diminishing returns quickly. The divide is where you start to see real diminishing returns on your health per mana.

All this is to say: In a perfect world, apply lifebloom slowly and let it bloom after the third application. Of course there will be exceptions when you need hots rolling on your tank, or when all the bloom would accomplish is 9000 more on your overheal meter. This is in a perfect world - there's no friction or air resistance either.

Commentaire de 278530

I wonder after these changes to lifebloom, if it is still relevant to increase the duration of lifebloom through talents and glyphs, or the shorter the duration the better? For example, if I want to have the mana cost refunded quicker then I simply don't roll and wait till it blooms...

Commentaire de Fiyero

This will still give mana back if you cast it with clearcasting.

Commentaire de 226334

Patch 3.1-
Lifebloom: Mana cost of all ranks doubled. When Lifebloom blooms or is dispelled, it now refunds half the base mana cost of the spell per application of Lifebloom, and the heal effect is multiplied by the number of applications.

R.I.P Lifebloom rolling.
It is no longer mana-efficient to 'roll'.You gottta let it bloom to get your mana back.

Unless you have 60k mana.
>.<

Commentaire de 358162

The tooltip is misleading. It actually refunds 490 mana at level 80, which is half of the untalented cost. Costs 782 mana in my pvp gear (290 net mana), 702 mana in pve gear (212 net mana). On a clear cast you get the 490 mana after 9 seconds.

Commentaire de 227517

Has anyone tested the threat generated by the LB mana return? I think mana gained generates the same threat as HP gained. Does anyone know if restos may be generating extra threat because of the mana gained from this spell and its not being reduced by subtlety because its not a "heal". Healer threat isn't too much an issue in Wrath but in scenarios like the Thorim fight with multiple waves of mobs restos may be getting an unintentional boost in threat from the new spell mechanic.

Commentaire de 330185

Can this stack on itself?
Rejuv goes:
I cast Rejuv
Ticks for x seconds
I cast again.
Refreshed.

Doesn't this work like
I cast Lifebloom
Wait X seconds.
Cast again.
More powerful.

Right? I'm confused, I've heard of "3 stacks of lifebloom" but idk how hots or dots really work. (My main is hunter, my druid is 18 now :P)

Commentaire de 208857

Im gonna blaze on mages for a second, IMO the only reason that mana regen was nerfed and this spell more mana was because mages were jealous of resto druids mana regen, yeah back then our mana would be pretty much unlimited but you mages have 20k mana, you will NEVER see a druid with that much mana unless he/she is super geared, ALL classes have a advantage over others but they also have a disadvantage, YOU CANT BE ALL THE CLASSES at once its stupid to think that you can. Btw you mages get evocation, and thanks to your complaining about our mana regen, we now suffer the same fate as you!

Commentaire de 5189

How many nerfs can one ability endure? March on, little trooper, march on.

Commentaire de 297395

As of 3.1, the 'bloom' portion of Lifebloom uses the crit rate of the target it is cast on, not the crit rate of its caster.

Read this here, and also just confirmed this myself.

Commentaire de 394270

Blizz fixed the increasing mana cost for each application of lifebloom so the cost for mana no longer increases as you roll the third stack

Commentaire de 229037

Okay, I don't quite get it how to heal nowadays - I mean what's better, get 3 stacks of LB on the tank and let it bloom, or roll it? On one hand you get a HUEGE (typo intended) heal at the end of the bloom, plus you get mana back. On the other hand, wouldn't "rolling" the LB bring the druid more healing done, and more mana efficiency? And how do you heal in a raid situation, that is a grand question also, for me at least. Pre WoTLK it was pretty simple, now I'm a bit confused and couldn't find the answer on any of the theorycrafting forums, at least not for my particular question, so I would be glad if some one from the raiding and healing druids could answer it. Ty in advance :)

P.S: If someone can provide a link to theorycrafting, that would be welcome also :)

Commentaire de 287504

hot portion: 11.422/tick
The spell power coefficent of lifeblooms heal over time and direct heal values are as follows:
590 tick per stack at 3600 spellpower.
3613 bloom per stack

over 11 seconds: 9*3 stack+2 stack+1 stack+3bloom

16800 hot healing.
11651 avg bloom(assuming 15% crit)

lifebloom with no overhealing: 2586 hps per tank.
hot portion(no overheal) 1527 hps per tank.

Commentaire de eromrab

Causes .25 threat per 1 health point healed, compared to Rejuvenation, which does .5 threat per 1 health point healed. So still a great opening HoT to put on tanks, because of the low aggro generation for the healer.

Test Notes

Commentaire de 18074

Stack up Lifebloom before you switch to a different set of talents with dual talent specialization and you can keep a little bit of your mana, rather than having it all drained.

Commentaire de 166824

If you're fighting a mage, and you don't have Dispel Protection, don't use this.

Mages who spellsteal this get healed and get the ~500 mana back as well.

They end up gaining mana by taking this.

Commentaire de 550474

use rejuvtion and life bloom at the same time is a good compantion

Commentaire de 245256

Here's some math. Some of the numbers may be wrong, but they're consistently wrong; I'm just talking about different ways to use this spell, not comparing it to other spells.
1) Each stack of the spell is equal: a stack of 3 Lifeblooms is exactly the same amount of healing and the same amount of mana as three single stacks of Lifebloom.
2) At 3000 spellpower, my single Lifeblooms tick for 500 and bloom for about 3200. Since Lifebloom ticks every second for 9 seconds (nonglyphed), that's 7700 healing for 391 mana.
3) If you stack three Lifeblooms as fast as you can, you cannot avoid getting a tick of single and a tick of double before getting all three stacks on. So that's (500 + 1000 + 9*1500) + 9600 = 24600 healing for 1173 mana.
4) Ephemeral Snowflake works very well with Lifebloom. Triple Lifebloom heals 12 times, so that's 132 mana back before the Bloom gives you mana, which essentially reduces the cost of Lifebloom by 10%.
5) If you want to get the most mileage out of triple Lifeblooms, the best thing to do is cast once, let it tick 8 times, cast again, let it tick 8 times, then cast a 3rd time and let it bloom. This is (8*500 + 8*1000 + 9*1500) + 9600 = 35100 healing for 1173 mana, about 50% more healing than stacking all 3 Lifeblooms ASAP.
6) The downside, obviously, is that it heals over a longer period: the nonefficient method (3) is 2236 HPS, but the mana-efficient method (5) is 1404 HPS.
7) So what's the best use of this spell? Because of the mana refund, Lifebloom is rather efficient if you let it bloom. I roll triple stacks on the tank whenever possible (slowrolling if the damage is mild, fastrolling if the damage is severe) and occasionally toss out single Lifeblooms to other hurt people. Rejuv is generally a better idea because it heals more quickly, but don't be afraid to experiment with Lifebloom.
8) Clearcasting from Omen of Clarity is this spell's best friend. A free Lifebloom is 7700 healing and 391 mana for free! Also, the mana return of my Lifebloom is greater than the cost of Moonin Form, so tossing a Bloom on yourself while levelling is worth some heals and some mana. (This assumes you have Natural Shapeshifter, of course.
9) Have you ever Innervated yourself and realized you'll waste the last few ticks of the mana return? In that case, toss out a ton of Lifeblooms! You'll end up with full mana but will have done a bunch of extra healing.

Commentaire de FrostyC

Wild Growth trumps this spell to nothing.

This has a way overpriced mana cost.

Rejuvenation will get you better heals, longer duration, at nearly half the initial mana cost.

Commentaire de JPato01

if you cast lifeboom in ToL form and then again in caster form it wont refresh the buff but instead it will apply another lifeboom on the target, so you can have up to "6" stack at the same time. though this is likely a bug

Commentaire de grrmisfit

this has been nerfed once again with patch 4.0. currently you can only have 1 bloom on one target. so if you triple stack a tank do not cast it on another person or the tank looses and it doesnt even bloom when this happens

Commentaire de 763090

Okay guys, you will have to help me here, i made a bet with my brother bacause i seem to remember i actually stacked lifebloom to 5 stacks once upon a time, and he claims it have always been 3 times, who's right?

Commentaire de 763090

Okay guys, you will have to help me here. i seems to remember that once upon a time i always stacked lifebloom to 5 stacks, but my brother claims it has always been 3 stacks, who is right?

Commentaire de Jerbs

The intention has always been 3 stacks. I have only ever seen 3 stacks.

If you managed to achieve 5 stacks at one time, there may have been a bug factoring in.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

ok, it says 'heal over 7 seconds, at the end, target healed instantly for additional heal' say you cast it all 3 times, at the end of the 7 seconds, does it heal for 1800 (we're not gonna go into +healing gear)or do they have 3 lifeblooms that last 7 seconds? and if they do stack for 7 seconds it's prolly heal on 1,3,5.. then final burst heal, i'm just guessing. so it'd be 91, 91, 91, 600. if it were casted it'd be 91 (1), 182(2), 273(3), 273, 273, 1800? if anyone knows, this'd be of great help.

Commentaire de Thottbot

i think the "Requires Tree of Life form" is similar to the priest "Requires Spirit of Redemption"...ment as u can use it in that form but also in other forms :) dang bugged thot....

also: stacking this for like 7�600 heal at the end? pwnage!

Commentaire de Thottbot

the heal at the end does not stack, the rest does. It can heal for max 600 (plus tree of life bonus, so 800) when dispelled or finished.

Commentaire de Thottbot

only the HoT stacks, not the final heal...

Commentaire de Thottbot

The ending burst heal doesn't stack, only the over time portion.

Commentaire de Thottbot

It says: Requires Tree of Life Form
Read: You can cast this in Tree of Life Form.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Does that mean...Book farming for...rank 2?

Commentaire de Thottbot

ok, end effect doesnot stack

but what about dispell? if you fight a priest/shaman
and u have 2 active Lifebloom buffs?

the shaman's purge dispells 2 buffs in 1 cast...maybe you will get healed for 2x600...

if this is true - stacking could be usefull when dueling priest/shaman

Commentaire de Thottbot

I think you guys are missing the point with all your mana efficiency math. This is a pretty potent instant cast hot that you can use with rejuv. You don't have to abandon rejuvenation to use lifebloom. Whether or not rejuv is better than lifebloom, having both ticking is much better than having either by itself. In a lot of situations having more healing going outweighs mana efficiency.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Guys its really simple what this spell is for, its the same as the Warlock talent spell Unstable Affliction: it's made to be a Dispel shield. Look at all the other HoT spells at this level, Regrowth costs around 800 mana, this costs 200 or so. Which would you rather recast if it got dispelled? Throw Regrowth on, 'cap' it with this spell and then when someone thinks they are smart and tries to dispell they get this one instead which you can instant cast right back on to protect your other HoTs. Thats why its not 'heal efficient' its made to make your more efficient spells more safe.

Commentaire de Thottbot

since the patch now all 3 stacks of the periodic part get your bonus healing not just the 1st one!

Commentaire de Thottbot

stack lifebloom 3 times at the beginning of the fight on the tank then throw a rejuv on him when he goes down 15%. Keep recasting lifebloom every 4/5 seconds and rejuv every 8/9 seconds. The tanks health will never go down. If it does hit him with a regrowth.

If someone else takes damage you can switch off the tank to cast the sluggish 3 second heal on whomever took aggro and by the time you're back to the main tank either the hots are still going or the bloom has filled him up.

Sow hots. Keep lifebloom stacked 3 times and keep it refreshed.

I'm a full feral and I can heal any regular 70 instance using this simple technique.

Commentaire de Thottbot

This spell is actually very mana efficient

it's incredibly useful for 2 things: (i have +1660 healing)

Stack 3 times on the main tank and use rejuv. the triple stack actually serves as a secondary rejuv. which costs less mana and heals more per second. So even though you're saying oh its not mana efficient, it actually is. The method you should use is to stack lifebloom three times and then cast rejuv. Wait 5 seconds so your mp5 goes off and recast lifebloom. You have a continuous HoT that is healing mass amounts of damage on top of your rejuv.

Secondly, it helps with dps after an AoE. Simply cast 1 lifebloom on 5 party members, hoping the other healers come in handy at this point and take care of the other 5 in your raid.

I like to look at is as a 6 second cast that heals for about 2000 (with my gear..) that you can use on all the dps at once. I love it, I will always stack it thrice on the tank, and no matter what you say that is the best way to do it.

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Another thing to consider with this OMG potent spell is who does the final heal? It is NOT the caster, but the target. Your tank gets the healing threat for the big pop at the end. For in-between healings, this will quickly get a full party up for about 1K mana. This spell totally rocks, and keeps attention where you want it, instead of on you.

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Well im a 70 resto druid and this is the best heal ever. Period. The secondyou throw it you get heals and its, therefore being much faster than rejuvenation and renew, and unlike those also you get 7 ticsinstead of 5 and the final heal,as a Full Resto Druid i can go through and complete instance without casting anything but this (To heal of course)and in raids i do the same execpt with rejuvenation and keep nature's swiftness on for a quick regrowth every now and then, it has yet 2 fail me =]

Also super nice for pvp and dueling its the all around best spell, sure priests get bubble but with this who needs absorbing ^-^

So Get the idol from SL to improve this, you wont regret it. Period. =]

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this spell is awsome, with 850 healing i made it to heal the full group on an alratraz run only using this spell.

when you stack it 3 times, it heals for 450/1sec you can outheal the dps a good tank takes.

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Lifebloom: Druids everywhere, this is your bread and butter heal, the single spell that makes tree form viable, it is your god. Some lovely tricks about lifebloom.

Indeed, the final heal is accredited to your target. If you notice, with floating combat text the heal is not shown above your target when the final heal procs, meaning the heal isnt accredited to you. However, letting the final heal proc isn't the purpose.

Stacking three lifeblooms gives my druid 600 healing per second, consistently, its probably the best heal in the game. It handles burst damage instantly, by the time another healer gets on it my HoTs (especially lifebloom) have ticked enough that the emergency is abated.

And want to try a little trick? Put on trinkets that allow you to use them to get a temporary +healing bonus (like Essence of the Martyr) preferably two such trinkets, and then stack three lifeblooms. You can get it to tick for over 1k health every second, and when you refresh it five seconds later you renew it with the ORIGINAL plus healing! So you can indefinately have 1000 tick lifeblooms for long boss fights. Zomg.

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my feral drood tank always does this spell rotation BEFORE engaging in combat with a boss

Cast: Regrowth, Rejuv, Lifebloom x3, Bear form, engage in melee, hes got his own healing going on while in combat while the healer heals him
pretty nice spell IMO

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Best spell ever.

'Nuff said.

I have around 1,800 +heals, I'm still not comfortable solo-healing, but sitting in tree form, keeping it up, and having a back-up burst healer to accomodate for too much damage is wonderful.

For instance, on Prince/Nightbane etc... As long as I keep it up, the tank is probably not dying. Of course, during Phase 2 more burstiness will be required, but yea... It lessens burst damage taken drastically.

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For Magoomba's comment, it does drop the threat on the target. If it put it on me, I could never keep multiple mobs off me while healing for a tank that only does one demo shout. I've done this; cast the bloom and let it pop. Cast another bloom and run it to 3 seconds before starting a regrowth, rejuv, and another bloom. The Bloom is ticking around 180 and popping for around 1400. The regrowths normally crit for 3 K, then about 1100 per 3 from the regrowth and lifebloom. I have -20% heal threat, and the target is either bear or defense stanced. The extras do not come to me, even when I've had the tank not do other AoE, and have not thornsed them. The test you did pulled threat on the initial heal, as 0 had been established, and then failed to regain off of the pop (which would need to be 110 or 130% of the ticks). Unless you were both melee range, he needed 130%.
If you want to test it, have someone generate a known amount of threat that will be close to the lifebloom's tick healing threat. If YOU get the threat of the pop, the creature would immediately charge you at the pop. If not, you do not get the threat. To go a step further, cast another lifebloom and see what happens. If you made the two threats close, that should DEFINATELY get the creature on you. When it doesn't after the second pop, you will see that they are generating additional threat somehow. Try it, you'll see.

I just remembered the other problem with that "test". How much damage did the lock have on them. If the lifebloom healed it all (or almost all) by the final tick, the pop didn't generate enough threat (or non if he was then full).

Solo usage: It's great. In the BGs, it is the shaman/priest/felhunter bane. I've been healed so much by morons spamming purge or dispell. 220 mana for me, I dunno how much for them, and I get 1400 healing as an instant. Spam away. For PvE solo, it is a nice instant to get back a nice amount of health if you have an add-in. Not so great for a feral who has to come out to cast it, but if you are caster form, it rocks. Just make sure you'll survive long enough for it to heal you.
Feral combo: This is a place where I'd either recommend against it or advise a change in the order of cast. Try LBx2, Regrowth, Rejuv, LB. You keep more duration that way (and get more healing, easy the healers more, and get all the threat at that nice bear-form increase).
Anyway, the only druids I've seen not like it are the ones who must sacrifice something to cast it, and don't have much +heals (mainly ferals, but some balance). I mainly use it (at this point) to keep the tank (or raid members) above 75% without using enough mana to consider. At 176 in tree-form, and kicking out 2500+ on the heals, this spell has efficiency that really can't be matched. In short fights, I'm second to third on the meters (in a 25-man). In long fights, lifebloom and a high spirit push me into a distant first. Between bloom and prayer of mending (I think it is), I've seen a tankout-heal a couple off-healers. I've also noticed the DPS difference when I use this instead of rejuv on the tank. He has more threat, so the DPSers cut lose more, the fight is shortened, and I rarely use my innervate (and I've done Gruul without potions). Resto druid is defined by their ability to heal longer and uniformly, keeping the targets from dropping low in health (but not being the best at topping someone off). This spell matches that description perfectly, and should never be overlooked by a healing druid. If you heal or tank, this spell is your best friend.

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This is a pretty good spell to make nice numbers on the healig meter :)
Say you have 3 tanks taking damage from a boss, then you can keep 3 lifeblooms up on each tank at the same time throughout the fight. Say you have 1600ish bonus healing like me. Each 3-stack ticking for 700 ish, then you get roughly 2k healing per sec the whole fight :)

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Can keep it up on 4 tanks too :). Its great to have combined with rejuv as whenever you see the tanks health go a little low hit swiftmend and heals for around 4-5k :). If still low use natures swiftness with HT.

Tis why resto's are brill.

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to above poster ^

In WOTLK there'll probably be a Rank 2 lifebloom (sweet)

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Can lifebloom stack three times per caster or only three times overall?

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leet PvP healing spell

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If you grab this with Spellsteal (mage spell), does that count as being "dispelled"?

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Fleur de vie	Niveau 85

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n/d

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1.5 secondes

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